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Subject: Re: wow.. why mirror?
Date: Wednesday 25 October 2006 19:11
From: Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com>
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:20, Paul Hall wrote:
I'm wondering this very question too. Our site isn't even
showing up on the
list of mirrors and on the other list of mirrors isn't listed correctly. We
haven't seen *any* traffic for core 6 since its release. I'm trying to
decide if theres any reason for us to continue to be a mirror and dedicate
resources to this.
The job of managing mirrors fell onto me when I joined Red Hat. Dumped is
probably a better term. The way mirrors were handled is pretty sad, there
are _lots_ of files to edit, and a huge amount of duplicated data. Also
there is no way for mirrors to make updates themselves or add / remove
themselves. It's all done via email and CVS.
I had requested some help in the Fedora community managing these mirrors and
I got some initially, however that help seems to have dried up and I'm left
to handle it all myself again. As you can expect, I was a bit busy the last
couple days, and will continue to be for a while. Noticing that your mirror
isn't listed the day or so of the release isn't great, as I'm not going to
be able to get to it.
Add to this the fact that redhat.com was getting attacked, and
fedora.redhat.com is where the mirror source files lived. SO while I could
change it in CVS, I would _then_ have to change it in at least 2 other places
for our emergency static listings. This is by far not optimal especially on
days when I have 0 extra time.
Where do we go from here? We obviously need a way for mirror admins to
manage their own mirror listings, and a way to submit mirror data to ONE
source, and that source would be used to generate URLs to the various bits
under fedora/core or fedora/extras. Nothing should change from that point
lower anyway. Now that we have methods to verify mirrors are up to date,
and sort by geoip, all we really need is your base URL(s). Lets see if we
can get this done before the next Fedora test release.
How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for
information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror
management project.
Until we get such a system up, I'm not all that interested in continuing to
make fine tunes to the multitude of mirror files we have scattered around.
Lets clean it up by moving to a new system.
And yes, we deeply appreciate any and all mirrors.
--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
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Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
6:24 p.m.
On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for
information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror
management project.
now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should
get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to
work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an
overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
4) possible move the configs into the database itself?
Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add
yourself to the infrastructure schedule.
-MIke
1:42 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for
> information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror
> management project.
>
now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should
get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to
work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an
overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
Authenticated, of
course.
2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
We should think about threading the checking.
4) possible move the configs into the database itself?
what
does this mean?
-sv
3:10 a.m.
From what i see in the schedule page the MirrorManagement task is
defined as
a closed issue.
Shouldn't we update the schedule page adding the information we are
discussing here, defining it as Priority 1 and setting a date for FC7-test1
?
Paulo
On 10/26/06, seth vidal <skvidal(a)linux.duke.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructurefor
> > information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the
mirror
> > management project.
> >
>
>
> now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should
> get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to
> work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an
> overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
>
> 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
Authenticated, of course.
> 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
> 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
We should think about threading the checking.
> 4) possible move the configs into the database itself?
what does this mean?
-sv
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8:12 a.m.
On 10/26/06, Paulo Santos <paulo.banon(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
From what i see in the schedule page the MirrorManagement task is
defined as
a closed issue.
Shouldn't we update the schedule page adding the information we are
discussing here, defining it as Priority 1 and setting a date for FC7-test1
?
Paulo
We can re-open it. I just need an experienced python programmer to
say "Yep, I'll take it"
-Mike
8:13 a.m.
On 10/26/06, seth vidal <skvidal(a)linux.duke.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for
> > information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror
> > management project.
> >
>
>
> now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should
> get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to
> work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an
> overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need:
>
> 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them
Authenticated, of course.
> 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system
> 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors
We should think about threading the checking.
Definatly.
> 4) possible move the configs into the database itself?
what does this mean?
Being able to define which dists/repos are available for mirroring all
through the webpage instead of a flat config file.
-Mike
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