rawhide X applications not responsible, kernel problem?
by Yuan Yijun
Hi,
I don't know if others have the same problem, but my mouse and
keyboard can lost responsive if they are free for a few minutes. After
several seconds, it goes back to normal. It feels like applications
are being swapped out and in, but I don't see HDD LED flash at all.
The problem is not in kernel-2.6.23.1-49.fc8 but is in
kernel-2.6.23.8-63.fc8. Also it is in kernel-2.6.24-0.x but worse than
2.6.23. I guess this is because something changed in the scheduler. My
hardware profile is e26cfcbf-a150-4466-a65f-d9c99f5d048e
--
bbbush ^_^
16 years, 5 months
KDE-SIG weekly report (49/2007)
by Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
to this email or add it to the related meeting page.
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= Weekly KDE Summary =
Week: 49/2007
Time: 2007-12-04 16:00 UTC
Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-04
Meeting log:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-04?action=AttachF...
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= Participants =
KevinKofler
LaithJuwaidah
MaryEllenFoster
RexDieter
SebastianVahl
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= Agenda =
* Progress of the inclusion of KDE4 into rawhide
* recent bugs
= Summary =
o kde4 in rawhide, progress:
* packages:
* the main package of kde4, kdebase-workspace, is already in rawhide
* extragear-plasma was submitted for review (#409401) [1]
* kdemultimedia(4) contains only some few ported apps. We'll maybe have to
ship a compat-kdemultimedia(3) package and/or include some packages from
extragear (kmid, kaudciocreator)
* also taxipilot requires kdemultimedia3 (which maybe could be fixed)
* kdewebdev has to be shipped in kde3 version (quanta isn't ported to kde4)
* kopete also has to be shipped in kde3 version (until it works in kde4)
* next packages to import:
* kdeaccessibility, kdeartwork (RexDieter)
* kdegraphics, kdesdk (KevinKofler)
* RexDieter has made some changes to comps-f9.xml
* ThanNgo has been working to fixup kdm issues
* kde-settings should be hostet at hosted.fedoraproject.org
* SebastianVahl has started work on the livecd
o recent bugs:
* #410651 New flash plugin not working for konqueror: known as upstream bug
[2]
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= Next Meeting =
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-11
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= Links =
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=409401
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=410651
16 years, 5 months
Broken BuildRequires in rawhide
by Michael Schwendt
These are broken BuildRequires in the rawhide src.rpms:
package: Miro - 0.9.9.9-1.fc9.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
gecko-devel = 0:1.8.1.9
package: orange - 0.3-5.cvs20051118.fc8.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
synce-devel
package: perl-Perl-MinimumVersion - 0.15-1.fc9.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
perl(version) >= 0:0.7203
package: ruby-gnome2 - 0.16.0-16.fc9.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
gecko-devel = 0:1.8.1.9
package: synce-software-manager - 0.9.0-7.fc6.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
synce-devel
package: synce-trayicon - 0.9.0-8.fc6.src from fedora-development-source
unresolved deps:
synce-devel
16 years, 5 months
Re: rpms/gonvert/devel gonvert.spec,1.13,1.14
by Jon Ciesla
> Hi Jon,
>
> Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> Name: gonvert
>> Version: 0.2.19
>> -Release: 1%{?dist}
>> +Release: 2%{?dist}
>> Summary: Units conversion utility
>> Group: Applications/Engineering
>> -License: GPL+
>> +License: GPLv2
>
> Jon, did you get some clarification from upstream on the license?
> Lacking that, I believe GPL+ is correct.
>
> The source (the single python script) doesn't define any particular
> version, which means that any version of the GPL is allowed, in
> accordance with Section 9 of the included COPYING file:
>
> "... If the Program does not specify a version number of this License,
> you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software
> Foundation."
That'll teach me not to RTFL. Thanks. I'll change it back.
> --
> Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect
> ourselves with mathematics.
> -- Bruce Schneier
>
>
--
novus ordo absurdum
16 years, 5 months
Re: rpms/gonvert/devel gonvert.spec,1.13,1.14
by Todd Zullinger
Hi Jon,
Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Name: gonvert
> Version: 0.2.19
> -Release: 1%{?dist}
> +Release: 2%{?dist}
> Summary: Units conversion utility
> Group: Applications/Engineering
> -License: GPL+
> +License: GPLv2
Jon, did you get some clarification from upstream on the license?
Lacking that, I believe GPL+ is correct.
The source (the single python script) doesn't define any particular
version, which means that any version of the GPL is allowed, in
accordance with Section 9 of the included COPYING file:
"... If the Program does not specify a version number of this License,
you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software
Foundation."
--
Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect
ourselves with mathematics.
-- Bruce Schneier
16 years, 5 months
Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps
by Mark
// begin note
i posted this in the fedora-list first but wasn't getting reply's that
are discussing what i say below. And for the memory (in the text
below).. Using it all up doesn't mean that it's used good. See it like
your a rich guy. you can spend it all at once or just go easy on it. i
would like to go for the latter one. + send to the gnome desktop devel
list
// end note
Hey,
i was just looking through the system monitor to see how my memory
usage was doing and that gave me a impressive (negative way) result.
I've made a screenshot [1] of it and edited it a little. The color
that i added in mean:
- darkred : extreme memory usage for..?? nothing?
- red : gnome-panel related things (applets mostly)
- orange : first applet UNDER one MB.
Now if you take a look at the image you see that my current gnome
session is taking up:
4.9 MB (gnome-panel)
3.5 MB (mixer_applet2)
3.0 MB (wnck-applet)
2.3 MB (nm-applet)
1.2 MB (notification-area-applet)
1.1 MB (gnome-volume-manager)
0.7 MB (bluetooth-applet)
Totals to: 17.7 MB
That is only the gnome-panel stuff with it's applets. if you are gonna
take into account the stuff that is needed to run the applets (like
python) than it will likely use a lot more but since those a can be
used with other applications as well i will leave that out of it.
Now there are still 3 more left in the list i highlighted.
1. Nautilus
Oke.. this one is bothering me. at the time that i shot the screenshot
nautilus was not open (at least not the file browser) and than it's
taking up that much memory! that's just overkill!
2. gnome-settings-daemon
Why does this need to run? what's the purpose of it? If it's just
running for other programs to grab gnome settings (wild guess) than
it's using up way to much RAM anyway. otherwise it has to go.
3. puplet
Someone said this was efficient in Fedora 8.. doesn't look like it. (8 MB).
Now the notebook i'm typing this on has 1GB om memory and runs Fedora
fine so if i look at it that way than the ram usage is fine. but keep
in mind the people with less memory (256 or 512 MB's) they are gonna
get a hard time with this fedora. My total memory usage at the time of
this writing is: 432.00 MB (with GIMP on.. if that's closed than it's
"just" 400 MB).
What i'm trying to say here is that those gnome-panel applets are
taking up way to much memory regardless of the memory you can afford
or have in your computer. It should just be as fast and small as
possible with all the needed functions. 3.5 MB for the mixer applet
(which doesn't even support pulseaudio streams and is really basic!)
is just overkill (btw it's taking up 4.6 MB now). Perhaps all those
applets need to be checked on memory usage? or a completely new
gnome-panel + applets that just take up a few MB in total (instead of
17.7). Gnome and Fedora are currently looking fine the way they are.
so perhaps it's time to stop spending time on features for a while (2
releases? till Fedora 10?) and start spending all time/money/efforts
on performance memory usage and usability.
And again for the memory. Having much doesn't need that it needs to
use much! slow pc's with less memory should be able to run fedora
right? Simple example. imagine that a slow 500 MHz pc with 512MB
memory wants to run Fedora + compizfusion + Gimp. Now at this moment
he must drop compiz or gimp. if that panel stuff was just using normal
amounts of memory he would have been able to use all 3 (just a
example!!)
So.. is something gonna change with this memory abuse?
[1] http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6821/screenshotsystemmonitoryh4.png
16 years, 5 months
fedora-packager
by Dennis Gilmore
Hi All,
I created a new hosted project at
https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-packager/ with one simple
goal. make it easy for people to setup a fedora package maintainer
environment. Right now all that is currently in place is
fedora-packager-setup.sh used to setup your certs and configs for koji and
plague and a new script fedora-cvs that will checkout from cvs modules for
you using your FAS account.
Why am i telling you this? well for one fedora-packager-setup.sh is no longer
in the koji package its in fedora-packager and two I want your help.
Do you have a script that you find really useful to help you maintain your
packages? want to share them? then please help make fedora-packager better.
We also now have a new comps group fedora-packager. so there is two easy
ways to get your development environment setup on a new box "yum
groupinstall fedora-packager" and "yum install fedora-packager" both will
do the same thing. then run fedora-packager-setup.sh and your on your way.
Dennis
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16 years, 5 months
Package/System-specific repoquery
by Richi Plana
Hi,
I asked this at JPackage.org, but this is probably a better place to
query.
Is there a way to do the equivalent of "repoquery --whatprovides
<class-name>" Java? As in "repoquery --whatprovides
com.netscape.sasl.Sasl"? I mean, the information is there. Is the
semantics and the smarts available in repoquery?
--
Richi Plana
16 years, 5 months
Heads up: openldap and openssl changed in devel
by Tomas Mraz
There are new versions of OpenLDAP (2.4.6) and OpenSSL (0.9.8g) with
different soname in rawhide. Please rebuild your packages, which depend
on openldap and openssl.
Jan Safranek & Tomas Mraz
16 years, 5 months