Re: Degradated modules support

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 at 10:12, Petr Pisar <ppisar(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: expect dropping of numerous modules from Fedora. If there remain no modules, Most of the work needed to get these worked on successfully requires: 1. Nothing being higher priority for Fedora Infra, Fedora Releng, Red Hat MBS team, and other parts of the build system that this ties into. 2. Schedules being aligned between the 3-4 teams that this is a priority to work on for a 4 to 6 week period. Most of the Fedora Infrastructure and Releng work is tied up in: 1. getting a daily compose out the door (Monday through Sunday). 2. getting a release out in some form (beta/final) every 12 weeks. 3. keeping 40+ services over a couple hundred systems working to meet 1&&2. The above is done by about 2.5 people (counting multiple volunteers as 1 person). This goes up at times and goes down but for the last year has been about that. I don't think this is unique to Fedora Infra/Releng. The teams which have supported MBS, Koji, PDC, ODCS, etc have their own goals they need to accomplish and it is hard to get their time to sync up with the usual short periods that Fedora Infra can 'slow-down' (usually after a release). I don't have any easy solutions on how to fix this. Even 'turn off modularity' isn't probably easy. Too many services are tied into the Fedora build system framework in a way that expects something from other parts even if they don't seem connected. You turn off one service, and you find out that 3 other things don't work weeks later because they expected some sort of 'heart-beat' or some other message. -- Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren