Re: I gotta ask this ...
by Fezzik Giant
If mach already has this feature then I'll abandon my efforts -- sorry for
the duplication. I had not realized that this was a feature.
Thanks again for the great work!
>From: Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas(a)apestaart.org>
>Reply-To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
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>Subject: Re: I gotta ask this ...
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:15:26 +0100
>
>El sáb, 06-12-2003 a las 01:57, Fezzik Giant escribió:
>what does the script do that mach doesn't do yet ? For instance,
>downloading a bunch of .src.rpm files and typing
>mach rebuild *.src.rpm
>should already order them correctly for building. If not, it's a bug.
>
>Thomas.
>
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Re: Fedora Core 2 wishlists
by Jef Spaleta
Michael K. Johnson wrote:
> However, that won't be the ONLY feature of Fedora Core 2. I'd
> like to hear people's wishlists
1) an easy-bake config tool for basic amanda server/client setup
including easy-bake configuration of backup to harddrives.
Or failing that, maybe inclusion of mondo rescue as a backup option.
2)Some sort of working group for a11y issues as a development resource
as part of a longterm roadmap for enhancing a11y. I'd like to avoid
blood letting discussions in the future similiar to the ones we had late
in the testing phase with grub.
-jef"and of course...t-shirts"spaleta
20 years, 4 months
Re: I gotta ask this ...
by Fezzik Giant
Thank you Thomas. I've started using mach and it's delicious :)
I'm working on a script that tries to look at the dependencies and to create
a makefile which drives my mach build so that things get done in the right
order.
I'd be more than happy to test drive your mach configuration for fedora too!
Regards.
>From: Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas(a)apestaart.org>
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>To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
>Subject: Re: I gotta ask this ...
>Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:27:20 +0100
>
>As for general package building inside clean chroots, mach may be of use
>to you.
>
>http://thomas.apestaart.org/projects/mach/
>
>I'm in the process of updating it so it builds for Fedora Core 1 as
>well, almost there but I have some heads to butt together before I can
>finish it.
>
>Thomas
>
>??
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have seen several posts in the past where someone asks about building
> > Fedora ISO images. I have yet to see a response.
> >
> > Surely _someone_ must know how this is done. Why is there never a
>response?
> > Is this knowledge a 'secret sauce' that nobody wishes to share?
> >
> > F
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20 years, 4 months
rdiff-backup as a default backup solution was [ Re: Fedora Core 2 wishlists ]
by Jef Spaleta
Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> seth vidal wrote
>> [1] http://rdiff-backup.stanford.edu/
> Also in fedora.us "stable" already.
If i were just making arguments about offering choice
for a backup solution, I would be more than happy to just populate
fedora.us with choices. But what I'm really trying to get at is I think
there is a real need for FC to offer something in the way of
an easy-bake backup tool as a default offering that simply fills a
defined backup policy usefully to a mundane user. And I would go further
if possible to encourage users to use the tool as part of the install
process...since really, the users who would probably most benefit from
such an easy-bake tool probably to be told that it exists since they
probably haven't really thought about how they want to do data backups.
How integrated a default backup tool should be to try to provide a
mundane user with a reasonable backup policy as part of the install, is
a larger harder question.
But to be clear, I think most mundane end-users who are running fedora
systems at home standalone or in a small lan would be served by having a
gui backup tool that did backups to large harddrives either locally or
on the lan. More than that would of course be great(or mind-numbingly
confusing)...but I'm not going to expect anything more than that from a
first cut at an easy-bake gui tool for this. rdiff-backup looks
compelling to me as the underpinnings of a KISS gui tool to do backups
and restores. The fact that its already in fedora.us probably makes it
more compelling as the basis of an easy-bake tool for FC2.
-jef"i never want to hear 'how do i undelete a file on ext3'
again"spaleta
20 years, 4 months
Re: apt-rpm
by MG
09-Dec-2003 fedora-devel-list-request(a)redhat.com:
> From: Warren Togami <warren(a)togami.com>
> https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1028
> Panu's latest fedora.us apt package uses rpmlib unlike previous
> fedora.us apt releases. This makes it a bit more acceptable for RH
> people who previously had the kneejerk "--nodeps" reaction. =)
>
> I suspect that RH will accept apt and opencarpet only after the new
> unified meta-data thing happens hopefully before FC2. BTW anyone know
> the status of that?
>
When does the apt-rpm use the cdrom as rpm source? It can use the ftp and http
only. :(
Bye!
Gabor
20 years, 4 months
Re: Fedora Core 2 wishlists
by Nils O. Selåsdal
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 12:39, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le lun 08/12/2003 21:42, Dan Young a crit :
> > Wil Cooley said:
> > > (Remember the discussion last week about LDAP?)
> >
> > Apropos LDAP integration, how about a purty system-config-ldap
> > (slapd/schemas/replication/etc.) tool? Probably need to pull in the
> > python-ldap module.
>
> Well, what we certainly need is tools and sane default templates to
> easily integrate a new system in a small (or not so small) network,
> either as a station or as the main server.
>
> IE :
> - centralised user info & password (ldap + kerberos)
> - file server (nfs4 ?)
Would be nice, iirc nfsv4 kan do kerberos/gssapi authentication.
> - print server
> - windows integration (samba)
>
> Most of the software is already there, what we need is something that
> doesn't need a week reading half-baked english howtos to work.
>
> This would target all SMEs that need relief from MS licensing but do not
> have the internal know-how to integrate all the various pieces, and all
> the home networks (which I do expect to proliferate soon with broadband
> availability, wireless and computer replacement instead of first buys).
>
> Fedora right now is a great single-box solution, we need it to take over
> the small networks now (or let the NT bits in XP do it).
Soo +1.
Something to compete with Acive Directory is needed.
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20 years, 4 months
Self-Introduction: David Farning
by David T Farning
Full legal name - David Farning
Country, City - US Madison WI
Profession or Student status - Student
Company or School - MATC
Your goals in the Fedora Project -
My main interest in package management and tools. This interest comes
from several years experience attempting to keep several non-homogeneous
system updated in a secure military environment. In this environment no
one had any time and few had the ability to keep the system current.
The phrase 'damn it, just make it happen' was heard frequently.
I am interested in doing QA for package management tools.
Historical qualifications -
I am a newcomer to the world of linux. Prior experience includes
developing a database to keep track of security clearances in an US Army
Ranger Battalion. Languages include: Java, vb, python, bash, Perl. Why
should we trust you? Well, the special operations community trusted me
to keep track of security clearances-so depending on your political
leaning I'm either pretty darn trustworthy or else the devil himself (no
longer any military affiliation so I can make that little joke). As part
of the fedora project, I would like to get some QA work done to build my
trust rating. Current working on moving synaptic through the QA
process.
Additional -
I'd like to get it out in the open that I am dyslexic.
Occasionally/often my writing looks like very unprofessional. If I'm not
clear, just say so. I'll try to make myself more clear.
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20 years, 4 months
Fedora Core 2 wishlists
by Naoki Shigematsu
Hi,
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:15:30 -0500
> From: "Michael K. Johnson" <johnsonm(a)redhat.com>
:
> However, that won't be the ONLY feature of Fedora Core 2. I'd like to
> hear people's wishlists. Not everything will be possible, but it would
> be nice to have a good list from which to pick the possibilities, and
> from which to also pick ideas later for Fedora Core 3.
I wish:
1) webmin <http://www.webmin.com/>
Webmin is a web-based interface for system administration for Unix.
Using any browser that supports tables and forms (and Java for
the File Manager module), you can setup user accounts, Apache,
DNS, file sharing and so on.
2) rrdtool <http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
RRD is the Acronym for Round Robin Database. RRD is a system to
store and display time-series data (i.e. network bandwidth,
machine-room temperature, server load average). It stores the
data in a very compact way that will not expand over time,
and it presents useful graphs by processing the data to
enforce a certain data density. It can be used either via
simple wrapper scripts (from shell or Perl) or via frontends
that poll network devices and put a friendly user interface on it.
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20 years, 4 months
wishlist programs
by seth vidal
Hi all,
I think it might be a good practice for anyone suggesting a piece of
software to be included to first contact the software author to make
sure it is ok with him/her that their package be included. This is not a
legal issue it's a friendliness issue. Authors might not know that their
work might be in fedora core and they might not be happy when they are
bombarded with feature requests, "bugs", and patches.
If the package is open source and not TM or patent infringing nor dmca
violating then it is of course legal to include it, but it'd be a lot
friendlier to give the author the option to figure out if s/he wants to
deal with a fairly serious exposure increase.
-sv
20 years, 4 months
