kde November 2021

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Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Konsole missing from desktop pop-up
by Ian Pilcher 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

After updating to Plasma 5.23.2, Konsole is missing from the desktop pop-up menu (what the desktop settings refers to as the "Standard Menu"). Anyone know how to get it back? -- ======================================================================== In Soviet Russia, Google searches you! ========================================================================

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 28 Nov '21

28 Nov '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-11-29 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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Re: kf5-rpm-macros
by Neal Gompa 26 Nov '21

26 Nov '21

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 9:16 PM Maxwell G <gotmax(a)e.email> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am a little unsure about the kf5 macros, specifically the ones that have exactly the same value as their non-kf5 counterparts (e.g. `%_kf5_bindir`). Are all KDE packages required to use them? I assume that packages should at least be consistent. I am asking, because I have been reviewing some KDE packages that don't use the kf5 macros consistently or even use `%{_macro}` and `%{_kf5_macro}` at different places in the same specfile. I figured that I'd ask here before correcting anybody else. > The main reason for the macros is that it ensures we can have consistent, correct behavior on both Fedora and EPEL (RHEL/CentOS). Backporting our own macros is a lot easier when they're in our own namespace. We generally prefer KDE applications to use the qt5/kf5 macros in place of the standard ones for this reason. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!

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kf5-rpm-macros
by Maxwell G 26 Nov '21

26 Nov '21

Hi, I am a little unsure about the kf5 macros, specifically the ones that have exactly the same value as their non-kf5 counterparts (e.g. `%_kf5_bindir`). Are all KDE packages required to use them? I assume that packages should at least be consistent. I am asking, because I have been reviewing some KDE packages that don't use the kf5 macros consistently or even use `%{_macro}` and `%{_kf5_macro}` at different places in the same specfile. I figured that I'd ask here before correcting anybody else. Thanks, Maxwell -- Maxwell G (@gotmax23) Pronouns: He/Him/His PGP Key Fingerprint: f57c76e5a238fe0a628e2ecef79e4e25e8c661f8 PGP Keyserver: hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com gotmax(a)e.email

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Wrong displayed characters
by Klaus Kolle 26 Nov '21

26 Nov '21

Dear list.. After I've upgraded my Fedora 33 to 34 last week (yes I'm behind, but so it is) some applications doesn't show correct fonts - just squares with small numbers inside. Most applications seems to work but for instance the Tor browser shows up with garbled test in the address line as in the tab - and even pop-ups. In other applications it is in the file open/save diaglogs the text i garbled. It is probably a simple setting, but I can't figure out where to look. Can you help me? |< -- Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards Klaus Kolle Teknikumingeniør, B.Sc.EE., e-mail : klaus(a)kolle.dk Master of IT www : www.kolle.dk Asger Jorns Vej 17 Telefon : +4522216044 DK-8600 Silkeborg, Denmark "Man skal ikke tilskrive til sammensværgelser hvad der tilstrækkeligt kan forklares af inkompetence" Poul Henning Kamp Planlægning er tanker om noget man agter at gøre en gang i fremtiden, hvis omstændighederne tillader det. Klaus Kolle 2006 Perfection is achieved not when nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more left to take away. Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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plasma wayland niggles
by Chris Rouch 26 Nov '21

26 Nov '21

I've just upgrade to Fedora 35 using dnf, and tried to use wayland with plasma. Mostly it works well (with F34 plasma wayland was nearly unusable for me), but there are a couple of small problems. I have a bash script set to run on startup, which invokes various applications and puts them in the background, and then exits. On X11 the applications keep running, on wayland they also exit. I found the fix was to add "wait" at the end of the script. They shortcut keyboard mapping for the numeric keypad is broken, so that if I use KP_UP on the numeric keypad, the UP key is also mapped. I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug. On X11 they are treated as different. The python gtk FileChooserDialog is strange. With the code here: https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dialogs.html on X11 the buttons are shown in the expected colours at the bottom. On wayland they are dark on black and shown at the top. Regards, Chris -- Met vriendelijke groet, Chris Rouch

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 21 Nov '21

21 Nov '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-11-22 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 14 Nov '21

14 Nov '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-11-15 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 07 Nov '21

07 Nov '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2021-11-08 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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