Hi,
I'm running KDE Plasma 5.17.0 with F22. I use the open source 'radeon' video driver. I have compositing disabled and I use a solid color as my desktop background.
After some fiddling I've gotten it to where it's 99% usable, but every once in a while Plasma crashes. I've not noticed anything in particular that I might have done to trigger the crash. So far it's always restarted itself automatically, but it's slightly annoying to have to pause what I'm working on while I wait for Plasma to come back. ~/.xsession-errors doesn't have any obvious clues (the lack of timestamps doesn't help) and I don't know of anywhere else to look.
I have KDE5 set up with 2 activities. The first activity has 9 virtual desktops. I often switch between virtual desktops, usually successfully, but every once in a while Plasma will crash while I'm switching desktops. I also see crashes that don't involve switching desktops, such as after changing something in System Settings.
Do you have any suggestions of what I might do to troubleshoot and/or solve these crashes? Might I see improved stability if I upgraded to F23 or am I better off sticking with F22?
Thanks, Dave
On 04/01/16 02:32 PM, Dave Ulrick wrote:
Might I see improved stability if I upgraded to F23 or am I better off sticking with F22?
I'm afraid that KDE in Fedora 23 is in the same sorry state. Don't bother. Personally I'm seriously considering move to LXQT.
I wish I had better news. Dariusz
Am 04.01.2016 um 19:11 schrieb Dariusz J. Garbowski:
On 04/01/16 02:32 PM, Dave Ulrick wrote:
Might I see improved stability if I upgraded to F23 or am I better off sticking with F22?
I'm afraid that KDE in Fedora 23 is in the same sorry state. Don't bother. Personally I'm seriously considering move to LXQT.
I wish I had better news
with the latest 5.5.x it becomes useable
only some memleak drigves me crazy where *anything* in the DE becomes very slow after 1 or more days running a KDE session and after logout/login all is fast again
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
On 04/01/16 02:32 PM, Dave Ulrick wrote:
Might I see improved stability if I upgraded to F23 or am I better off sticking with F22?
I'm afraid that KDE in Fedora 23 is in the same sorry state. Don't bother. Personally I'm seriously considering move to LXQT.
I wish I had better news.
No problem, I understand. I'd have stuck with F21 (its KDE 4.x was nice and solid) but I thought I better keep up-to-date for security purposes.
For what it's worth, I've been on F22 for a couple of weeks now and it seems like KDE has been a bit more stable since 'dnf update' installed a few dozen k* RPMs a few days ago.
Just took a look at the LXQT home page...I might give LXQT a try.
Thanks!
Dave
On Monday 04 Jan 2016 6:11:37 PM Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
I'm afraid that KDE in Fedora 23 is in the same sorry state. Don't bother. Personally I'm seriously considering move to LXQT.
LXQT, it seems, is not yet ready in Fedora. On one system, it didn't setup network applet. I installed it on this very laptop and menu items are missing. I am setting up i3 because I can't go from one broken desktop environment to another one.
Cinnamon seems pretty stable sleek and well laid out. I was using LxQT, but was too busy, etc. I have been checking in on KDE from time to time, and it's much more stable but still has a ways to go - at least on my system.
On 01/05/16 01:32, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Monday 04 Jan 2016 6:11:37 PM Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
I'm afraid that KDE in Fedora 23 is in the same sorry state. Don't bother. Personally I'm seriously considering move to LXQT.
LXQT, it seems, is not yet ready in Fedora. On one system, it didn't setup network applet. I installed it on this very laptop and menu items are missing. I am setting up i3 because I can't go from one broken desktop environment to another one.
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On Monday 04 of January 2016 08:32:48 Dave Ulrick wrote:
Hi,
I'm running KDE Plasma 5.17.0 with F22. I use the open source 'radeon' video driver. I have compositing disabled and I use a solid color as my desktop background.
After some fiddling I've gotten it to where it's 99% usable, but every once in a while Plasma crashes. I've not noticed anything in particular that I might have done to trigger the crash. So far it's always restarted itself automatically, but it's slightly annoying to have to pause what I'm working on while I wait for Plasma to come back. ~/.xsession-errors doesn't have any obvious clues (the lack of timestamps doesn't help) and I don't know of anywhere else to look.
But when there is a crash you should see something like
KCrash: Application 'plasmashell' crashing...
The lines before that could be useful to troubleshoot the issue.
Ciao
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016, Luigi Toscano wrote:
But when there is a crash you should see something like
KCrash: Application 'plasmashell' crashing...
The lines before that could be useful to troubleshoot the issue.
Thanks, that's good to know. Here's what I have have in ~/.xsession-errors before the most recent plasmashell crash:
"Plural argument to message {and %1 other window} not supplied before conversion."
/* multiple occurrences of previous message, then these messages ... */
QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 31017, resource id: 119568700, major code: 15 (QueryTree), minor code: 0 Application::crashHandler() called with signal 11; recent crashes: 1 KCrash: Application 'plasmashell' crashing...
Dave
On 01/04/16 22:32, Dave Ulrick wrote:
I'm running KDE Plasma 5.17.0 with F22. I use the open source 'radeon' video driver. I have compositing disabled and I use a solid color as my desktop background.
After some fiddling I've gotten it to where it's 99% usable, but every once in a while Plasma crashes. I've not noticed anything in particular that I might have done to trigger the crash. So far it's always restarted itself automatically, but it's slightly annoying to have to pause what I'm working on while I wait for Plasma to come back. ~/.xsession-errors doesn't have any obvious clues (the lack of timestamps doesn't help) and I don't know of anywhere else to look.
I have KDE5 set up with 2 activities. The first activity has 9 virtual desktops. I often switch between virtual desktops, usually successfully, but every once in a while Plasma will crash while I'm switching desktops. I also see crashes that don't involve switching desktops, such as after changing something in System Settings.
Do you have any suggestions of what I might do to troubleshoot and/or solve these crashes? Might I see improved stability if I upgraded to F23 or am I better off sticking with F22?
FWIW, I too have had the occasional plasma crash. As a matter of fact every time I log in and start a GUI application such as chrome or thunderbird it would crash the first time. Then it would become stable after that until the next logout/login.
That was the case, until today. Today after a the latest updates this no longer happens! Fancy my surprise.
So, in increments, things are getting better. At least for me.
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