On Monday 19 January 2009 15:30:35 Martin Kho wrote: > Hi, > > 1. How can I get Kickoff straight to the left side, so that i can drop my > mouse there and blindly click the blue 'back-button'? Now there is a > little space between the button and the left edge. See question 2 :-) > 2. When I open applications, they always appear is some ordered way on > the panel. In my case from left to right: Dolphin, Firefox, Kmail, > Konsole. It doesn't matter which applications is started first. Can I > manipulate this behavior? They are, apparently, in alphabetical order. Do you normally quit and boot up with those applications open?

It will always try to resume a session with open applications, and I believe alphabetical order is the default. I normally close all apps except konversation when I quit, so konversation is the only one that starts automatically, and the others appear on the task bar in the order that I open them. All other icons, of course, can be positioned where you want them (including the Kickoff button). You'll find a description of that at http://userbase.kde.org/Configure_your_desktop#Rearrange_your_Panel Aside - if you haven't seen it, it's also worth visiting http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/File_Management for lots of info about dolphin.

> 3. In Kontact -> File there are two menu-items "Quit". Is there a purpose > for this? They seems to do the same. I've never seen two. I've no idea on that one, I'm afraid. > I'm not sure if these questions belong to this list. If not can someone > point me to the right place. They're not Fedora-specific, but that's not a problem. If you use Fedora this is a natural place to ask questions. Anne

My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.

My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Anne Wilson <cannewilson(a)googlemail.com&gt;

> On Tuesday 20 January 2009 00:38:35 Martin Kho wrote: >> My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the >> panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and >> click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the >> 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't >> press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there >> was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' >> has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version. > > I have 4.1.96-1.fc10.i386. Clicking anywhere on the blue panel takes me > back as expected - even taking it as low as I can. There is a tiny > (2px-wide?) white border between the blue and the black icon-backgrounds. > However, I couldn't persuade my mouse pointer to click there at all, as > it always tried to activate the Favourites tab. Nor do I have anything > that I recognise as "space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu". > Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem at all. Perhaps a screenshot of the > menu would help, so that we can see this space? > > Anne I have version: 4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64. In the screenshot below you can see the space between the blue 'back-buttonbar' and the left *screen* edge (see red arrow). May be it wasn't clear I meant the left screen edge.

Btw. Anne, did you see the bugreport at kde: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158675. Especially Carsten Wolff's comment.