Is Plasma Netbook still around ?
Is Plasma Active 3 ready for semi production use ? It can't be worse than Jelly Bean, can it ?
Is there an easy way to install either of these on an existing Fedora install without wrecking it ?
I'd really like to give one or both of them a try.
Thanks
linux guy wrote:
Is Plasma Netbook still around ?
Around, yes. Maintained, probably not really. But it should still work.
Is Plasma Active 3 ready for semi production use ? It can't be worse than Jelly Bean, can it ?
It has been released on October 15. We currently have a snapshot from August 10 packaged, we are working on upgrading our packaging to the official release.
The main problem with installing Plasma Active on Fedora is that they aren't really designing their software to be packaged by general-purpose distributions, they expect patches and configuration tweaks to standard KDE packages which we cannot all ship because some of them break Plasma Desktop.
Kevin Kofler
On 10/26/2012 09:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
It has been released on October 15. We currently have a snapshot from August 10 packaged, we are working on upgrading our packaging to the official release. The main problem with installing Plasma Active on Fedora is that they aren't really designing their software to be packaged by general-purpose distributions, they expect patches and configuration tweaks to standard KDE packages which we cannot all ship because some of them break Plasma Desktop.
Thanks for the update, Kevin. I'm sorry to hear it breaks Plasma Desktop because it would be REALLY neat to run Active when its used in mobile applications and Desktop when its used on a desk.
Please announce here or email me if you/when you get a build done as I'll be interested in testing it.
On 11/01/2012 08:02 PM, Steve wrote:
On 10/26/2012 09:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
It has been released on October 15. We currently have a snapshot from August 10 packaged, we are working on upgrading our packaging to the official release. The main problem with installing Plasma Active on Fedora is that they aren't really designing their software to be packaged by general-purpose distributions, they expect patches and configuration tweaks to standard KDE packages which we cannot all ship because some of them break Plasma Desktop.
Thanks for the update, Kevin. I'm sorry to hear it breaks Plasma Desktop because it would be REALLY neat to run Active when its used in mobile applications and Desktop when its used on a desk.
Please announce here or email me if you/when you get a build done as I'll be interested in testing it.
initial plasma active 3 builds for f17 in updates-testing:
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-17491
-- rex
On 11/02/2012 07:11 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
On 11/01/2012 08:02 PM, Steve wrote:
Please announce here or email me if you/when you get a build done as I'll be interested in testing it.
initial plasma active 3 builds for f17 in updates-testing:
Thanks for the update, Rex. Great work as usual.
Can active be installed and co exist with a regular Plasma install ?
How does one switch back and forth between the session types ? In the session selector on the login page ?
What yum command would be used to install these packages and not muck everything else up ?
What yum command would be used to uninstall these packages and get back to the system as it was before ?
Thanks !
On 11/02/2012 10:05 AM, Steve wrote:
On 11/02/2012 07:11 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
On 11/01/2012 08:02 PM, Steve wrote:
Please announce here or email me if you/when you get a build done as I'll be interested in testing it.
initial plasma active 3 builds for f17 in updates-testing:
Thanks for the update, Rex. Great work as usual.
Can active be installed and co exist with a regular Plasma install ?
Yes
How does one switch back and forth between the session types ? In the session selector on the login page ?
Yes, yes.
What yum command would be used to install these packages and not muck everything else up ?
Minimal setup is simply: yum install startactive
optional addons include: yum install contour share-like-connect plasma-active-wallpapers
What yum command would be used to uninstall these packages and get back to the system as it was before ?
uninstall the list of packages from previous step.
On 11/02/2012 09:13 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Can active be installed and co exist with a regular Plasma install ?
Yes
I should have been more specific. Can Active be installed and co exist with a regular STABLE Plasma install ? I'd like to enable testing for only the Active install. Is that possible ?
How does one switch back and forth between the session types ? In the session selector on the login page ?
Yes, yes.
Beautiful functionality !
What yum command would be used to install these packages and not muck everything else up ?
Minimal setup is simply: yum install startactive
How would this be done for the testing repository while keeping the Plasma from stable and not having dependency version issues ?
optional addons include: yum install contour share-like-connect plasma-active-wallpapers
What yum command would be used to uninstall these packages and get back to the system as it was before ?
uninstall the list of packages from previous step.
Again, from the point of view of having Active come from testing and keeping the rest of Plasma from stable ?
If one gets Plasma in totality from testing to handle the Active dependencies, what would be an easy way to uninstall Active and roll Plasma back to the latest version that is in stable ?
I don't mean to be a wuss, but I'd like to test Active on production machines. I'm OK with having issues while running testing versions of Active and Plasma but I need to be able to roll back to Plasma stable at the end of it all if it doesn't work out.
Other than that, this is hugely big news. I doubt very many people are aware of Active being available like this.
On 11/02/2012 10:34 AM, Steve wrote:
On 11/02/2012 09:13 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Can active be installed and co exist with a regular Plasma install ?
Yes
I should have been more specific. Can Active be installed and co exist with a regular STABLE Plasma install ? I'd like to enable testing for only the Active install. Is that possible ?
Yes again. :)
How does one switch back and forth between the session types ? In the session selector on the login page ?
Yes, yes.
Beautiful functionality !
What yum command would be used to install these packages and not muck everything else up ?
Minimal setup is simply: yum install startactive
How would this be done for the testing repository while keeping the Plasma from stable and not having dependency version issues ?
yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install startactive
to cherry-pick items from updates-testing
-- rex