Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work correctly. It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking to gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still not fixed.

On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:44:14 Rex Dieter wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: >> Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work >> correctly. It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking to >> gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still not >> fixed. > Works for some, not for others. *shrug*. gnome-keyring is a > tempermental black-box sometimes, it seems. > It asks for the password every time I connect, on my netbook, and it is most annoying. What's more, if the connection is dropped it asks for it again, and then fails to connect. Why does it need this at all? My Mandriva laptop manages the connection without this hassle.

On Thursday 22 January 2009 13:58:49 Rex Dieter wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:44:14 Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Neal Becker wrote: > >>> Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work > >>> correctly. It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking > >>> to gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still > >>> not fixed. > >> > >> Works for some, not for others. *shrug*. gnome-keyring is a > >> tempermental black-box sometimes, it seems. > > > > It asks for the password every time I connect, on my netbook, and it is > > most annoying. What's more, if the connection is dropped it asks for > > it again, and then fails to connect. > > > > Why does it need this at all? My Mandriva laptop manages the > > connection without this hassle. > > Not *needed*, gnome-keyring isn't required, but optional, but then > you're guaranteed to have to re-enter passwords on every connect. I was told to remove the login.keyring from .gnome2/keyrings/ I did, but when next I started it asked me for my passphrase, then asked for a password for the keyring. I'm back to square one. Anne

Silly question: why are issues/bugs with gnome-keyring being discussed on a kde list? My guess is that this isn't the best place to get stuff like that resolved... :)

Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; wrote: >> Silly question: why are issues/bugs with gnome-keyring being discussed >> on a kde list? My guess is that this isn't the best place to get stuff >> like that resolved... :) > > I think it may indeed be a KDE problem -- or at least a non-Gnome > problem. As far as I understand it, KDM/KDE (sometimes?) starts > gnome-keyring-daemon with no $DISPLAY environment variable This is the first I've heard of that. ?? Any details on this or open bugs?

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt; wrote: > Silly question: why are issues/bugs with gnome-keyring being discussed > on a kde list? My guess is that this isn't the best place to get stuff > like that resolved... :) I think it may indeed be a KDE problem -- or at least a non-Gnome problem. As far as I understand it, KDM/KDE (sometimes?) starts gnome-keyring-daemon with no $DISPLAY environment variable, which causes at least one of the symptoms we've been discussing: namely, nm-applet always asking for WPA passphrases. MEF

Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2009 13:58:49 Rex Dieter wrote: >> Anne Wilson wrote: >>> On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:44:14 Rex Dieter wrote: >>>> Neal Becker wrote: >>>>> Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work >>>>> correctly. It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking >>>>> to gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still >>>>> not fixed. >>>> >>>> Works for some, not for others. *shrug*. gnome-keyring is a >>>> tempermental black-box sometimes, it seems. >>> >>> It asks for the password every time I connect, on my netbook, and it is >>> most annoying. What's more, if the connection is dropped it asks for >>> it again, and then fails to connect. >>> >>> Why does it need this at all? My Mandriva laptop manages the >>> connection without this hassle. >> >> Not *needed*, gnome-keyring isn't required, but optional, but then >> you're guaranteed to have to re-enter passwords on every connect. > > I was told to remove the login.keyring from .gnome2/keyrings/ > > I did, but when next I started it asked me for my passphrase, then asked > for a password for the keyring. I'm back to square one. Remove keyring, logout, login. If you have gnome-keyring-pam installed and it's functioning properly, you shouldn't ever have to type a passphrase. If it does, it (gnome-keyring and/or has a bug somewhere, (and it's not a kde one). Silly question: why are issues/bugs with gnome-keyring being discussed on a kde list? My guess is that this isn't the best place to get stuff like that resolved... :)

Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2009 13:58:49 Rex Dieter wrote: >> Anne Wilson wrote: >>> On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:44:14 Rex Dieter wrote: >>>> Neal Becker wrote: >>>>> Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work >>>>> correctly. It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking >>>>> to gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still >>>>> not fixed. >>>> >>>> Works for some, not for others. *shrug*. gnome-keyring is a >>>> tempermental black-box sometimes, it seems. >>> >>> It asks for the password every time I connect, on my netbook, and it is >>> most annoying. What's more, if the connection is dropped it asks for >>> it again, and then fails to connect. >>> >>> Why does it need this at all? My Mandriva laptop manages the >>> connection without this hassle. >> >> Not *needed*, gnome-keyring isn't required, but optional, but then >> you're guaranteed to have to re-enter passwords on every connect. > > I was told to remove the login.keyring from .gnome2/keyrings/ > > I did, but when next I started it asked me for my passphrase, then asked > for a password for the keyring. I'm back to square one. Remove keyring, logout, login. If you have gnome-keyring-pam installed and it's functioning properly, you shouldn't ever have to type a passphrase. If it does, it (gnome-keyring and/or has a bug somewhere, (and it's not a kde one).

Silly question: why are issues/bugs with gnome-keyring being discussed on a kde list? My guess is that this isn't the best place to get stuff like that resolved... :)

Anne Wilson wrote: > It asks for the password every time I connect, on my netbook, and it is > most annoying. What's more, if the connection is dropped it asks for it > again, and then fails to connect. > > Why does it need this at all? My Mandriva laptop manages the connection > without this hassle. My solution to this keyring mess was: yum install knetworkmanager rpm -e NetworkManager-gnome reboot :-)

On Thursday 22 of January 2009 12:32:13 Neal Becker wrote: > Ever since F10, nm-applet is still used on kde and doesn't work > correctly. > It always asks for passwords. The issue is with talking to > gnome-keyring-daemon IIUC. On my desktop, at least, this is still not > fixed. > > One suggestion is to use knetworkmanager (sp?) instead, but it's not as > full- featured (or as nice) as nm-applet, so that's not much of a > solution. KNetworkManager is really poor relative to nm-applet, but you can install it if you wish. NetworkManager Plasma applet is on the way and looks really promising! It's not done yet but I hope we will ship it soon. Jaroslav > _______________________________________________ > fedora-kde mailing list > fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde

Ben Boeckel wrote: > I'm working on packaging it. It is definitely not ready yet. Last I tried, > connections couldn't be made yet (tried last week, will try later today). I wonder if we should resurrect the KDE 3 knetworkmanager for F11. It got marked dead.package in Rawhide, but IMHO that was premature as the replacement is not ready yet. And knetworkmanager works fine.