Could we drop Active Directory requirements from Fedora release
criteria?
by Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I want to talk about the Active Directory requirements in the
release criteria.
Since Fedora Server was created, we've had this in the criteria:
"It must be possible to join the system to a FreeIPA or Active
Directory domain at install time and post-install, and the system must
respect the identity, authentication and access control configuration
provided by the domain."
...plus various further requirements at Beta and Final.
For FreeIPA we have this testing entirely automated, it's no problem at
all. For Active Directory we...don't. At every release point this does
not get tested until very late. Often Stephen Gallagher has to test it
manually at the very last minute, which is an unfair burden on him.
When we *do* find problems, there is a mad scramble to fix them or at
least find workarounds, because we find them way too late.
We've looked into automating it and still kinda intend to do so, but
it's not really simple. There's a legal side to it - it's not clear
what the licensing requirements involved would be - and a technical
side to it - we'd need a way to reliably and quite quickly deploy an AD
domain controller using openQA automation, which is not a trivial job.
When I estimate the time that's going to take and consider what *else*
I (or anyone else) could do with that time, I'm not certain that
"automating AD testing" is the best use of it. To me it doesn't feel
like a really key feature of Fedora to the point that would justify the
work involved, or justify continuing to throw Stephen and others under
the last-minute-manual-testing bus. But I'm not sure!
What do others think? Do you use the AD client support of Fedora
Server? Do you think it's a key feature that we should keep as a
release-blocking requirement, or no?
Thanks!
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Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
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9 months, 1 week
Short info about our last IRC meeting
by Peter Boy
Again, for everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our last IRC meeting right here.
For greater Details see:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2023/
=== Highlight(s) ===
As an absolute highlight, we finally found the time to discuss our Ansible / Wildfly project in detail. We have made some decisions:
* We'll use nginx as proxy solution, because it is able to handle the proxy protocol.
* We will create a separate log. Volume for /opt/wildfly according the Fedora Server Edition storage concept
We’ll continue next meeting with Ansible details and probably a proxy test installation.
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Peter Boy
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy
PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org
Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2)
Fedora Server Edition Working Group member
Fedora Docs team contributor and board member
Java developer and enthusiast
9 months, 1 week
Short info about our last IRC meeting
by Peter Boy
Again, a bit late but hopefully not too late and for everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our last IRC meeting right here.
For greater Details see:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2023/
1.
As it looks at the moment the committee has accepted and is planning with a presentation: Fedora Server Edition – Quo Vadis? Unfortunately a workshop about Server in virtual environment, that I proposed, too, didn’t make it.
2.
WG agrees about to use automated testing using Samba AD as the server end (instead of a native Windows server) and to keep the status of release criteria.
Full compatibility with Windows Server remains the goal regardless of the testing procedure. And an inability to connect to a real Microsoft AD server remains a release blocking criterion, since that is (and remains) the most prominent domain controller in the world
3.
Regarding Fedora Server on (ARM) SBC, we’ll complete the current device documentation draft with the devices nominated until now.
4.
We want to replace the "DVD" in the naming of the installation media by "STD".
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Peter Boy
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy
PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org
Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2)
Fedora Server Edition Working Group member
Fedora Docs team contributor and board member
Java developer and enthusiast
9 months, 2 weeks
