arm December 2010

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Fedora ARM 12 on IGEPv2 (Beagle Board clone)
by Matthew Wilson 01 Jan '16

01 Jan '16

Hi all, I would like to introduce myself to the group. I have recently received an IGEPv2 board [1], which is based on the Beagle Board, but with wifi, bluetooth, ethernet, and more RAM. I'm still at the "wow, it's tiny and it runs Linux" stage. I should get a bit more time over the next month and Christmas to play around properly with it. I'm new to embedded development, but neither new to Linux nor ARM (writing my first ARM assembly some 15 years ago). However, for the past 6 years I've not even built a Linux kernel, preferring to use the default kernel in Fedora for simplicity :) Firstly, a thank you to those involved in Fedora ARM for getting it to this stage. If I get the time, I'd really like to contribute some (probably small) effort to help get Fedora ARM working well on the IGEPv2 and Beagle Board. As I progress, I'd like to know what I can do to help. In the meantime, I have some questions. Apologies in advance if these seem simple. 1) There are various different kernels from different sources. I'm used to there being a small set of "right" kernels (that is, Fedora's idea of "right") for x86. I fully appreciate that different ARM-based boards are quite different in capabilities (like different instruction set variants). a) Is there likely to be some standardised vanilla Fedora ARM kernel source? (Or is that simply the source RPM available for Fedora?) Then patches /could/ be offered for the more common systems (e.g. Beagle Board & clones, SheevaPlug). b) Would it then make sense to offer these as pre-built RPMs for common systems? c) Is there any guidance on which version is good to use as a base? I've seen quite different kernel versions being used (from 2.6.27 to 2.6.31). 2) I understand a little bit about the different calling conventions, FP differences (e.g. soft FPU versus VFP), and instruction set differences (v5 versus v7). a) Can the kernel can be safely built with a different instruction set targeted? (I know there are different optimisation options passed to GCC. Apologies if this seems a bit newbie-ish.) b) For FP-heavy programs (e.g. ogg encoding), is it possible to build the packages with VFP/NEON but still get them to work in a soft FPU system? I'd imagine any call to an external library would have to somehow be defined to use a different calling standard. 3) There seem to be some missing dependencies in the packages in the current Fedora ARM repository. For example, emacs is requiring libotf, which doesn't seem to be there in the repository. And likewise with the xorg-x11-font* packages needing ttmkdir. I'm confused as to how the RPM could have been successfully built without it. What am I missing? 4) I see there has been some discussion over unaligned data access. (Oh, I remember that from the ARM2 days.) It seems as if the Cortex-A8 cores allow unaligned data access when set up to do so [2]. Does this, in any way, help with the compatibility of packages targetting Cortex-A8? 5) I've managed to get various source packages missing from the Fedora ARM repositories to compile successfully (natively). I guess there is a reason why there are not in the repos right now -- is that reason down to time and priorities, or is there some blocking bugs with many of these packages? I look forward to being able to contribute something back into Fedora! Kind regards, Matthew [1] http://www.igep-platform.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4… [2] http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0344j/Beihgi…

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F14 qemu arm default board
by omalleys＠msu.edu 31 Dec '10

31 Dec '10

In F14 x86, we finally have the ability to add an ARM based VM via the libvirt management tool!! IE you can go through the GUI and set up an qemu based arm VM*. It defaults to the integratorcp board. But our image/kernel for F12 is for the versatile board.) The physical specs for the integrator board support a max of 256 megs of ram and only support the arm9 processors. I assume qemu only supports this, or at least I ran into issues when i tried to bump up the ram for the versatile boards. I am -assuming- this isn't the fastest board/processor combo... Does anyone have a clue what is? Then we can change it upstream and make a f13-alpha image for it. *since we don't seem to support kickstart, and we don't have an installer, you can really only import in an existing image. But hey it is better then what we had! Sean

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F13-alpha rootfs repo issues
by omalleys＠msu.edu 31 Dec '10

31 Dec '10

I just made a repo from scratch with the mkrootfs-13 script. If I poke through the repolists in yum.repos.d The only one enabled is for rawhide, and if I substitute armv5tel or arm for the arch, i get an invalid arch. (it works for say x86_64) The mirror for the F12 image points to wantstofly.org

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OpenOffice RPMs
by Gordan Bobic 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

Are there OpenOffice RPMs available for Fedora 12? I'm trying to build the src.rpm from RHEL6b2 on F12 ARM, but the machine has only 450MB of RAM, so it OOMs during the build. Are there any pre-built binary RPMs available? Gordan

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arm turnoff gpio's power
by 钟威 27 Dec '10

27 Dec '10

Hi guys, I want to turnoff some gpio's power on my board when it entered suspend and when it resumed turnon the gpio.My codes is:"gpio_set_value(BABBAGE_POWER_ON, 0);""gpio_set_value(BABBAGE_POWER_ON, 1);" I want to know where can I put my codes in?I have tried to put it in the two functions "suspend_devices_and_enter()","suspend_enter()" which are in kerne/power/suspend.c,but it didn't work which can't resume. Anyone can give me some tips,I really don't konw what can I do.Thanks all! Best Regards,William

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Xorg Keyboard Problem on Toshiba AC100
by Gordan Bobic 27 Dec '10

27 Dec '10

Hi, I'm having severe keyboard issues on the Toshiba AC100 under Xorg. Keyboard doesn't work _at all_. In xorg.conf, everything seems to be OK, it finds the keyboard and the mouse. The only odd thing is that it also detects the webcam and says it thinks it is a keyboard. I have removed the /dev/input/event3 node that the webcam uses and added a fdi policy file to ensure that HAL ignores it (and verified that it is in fact ignoring it). So I am reasonably confident that this isn't the core of the problem. Unfortunately, since there are no obvious errors in the Xorg log, I'm not sure where to look for the problem next. The text mode console works fine, but Xorg seems to ignore the keyboard inputs. I have looked at the wiki page here on the subject http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EvdevInputDriver and that says that situations like this should be deemed critical bugs. How can I get to the bottom of what is actually causing the problem? Gordan

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Updated cross binutils and gcc patches against rawhide
by Andy Green 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

Hi - Here are updates I just got working of Lennert and David's patches against current rawhide gcc and binutils: binutils-2.20.51.0.12-2.fc15.src.rpm gcc-4.5.1-5.fc15.src.rpm which generate updated binutils and gcc cross packages. The old ones are fine except that they're no longer able to build current kernels without errors. They're tested to generate working cross compiler packages on x86_64 host; the compilers generate a working kernel.org kernel on iMX31 and can link a test app with printf() OK, since I just need them for kernel compile duties I didn't go any further with cross userspace. You can use the patches like this: 1) Grab the source RPMs you want to build against 2) cd into your rpmbuild/SOURCES dir and use rpm2cpio <source rpm> | cpio -id to unpack, then mv *.spec ../SPECS 3) patch the binuntils.spec and gcc.spec files with the diffs; they should apply cleanly at least with exactly the rawhide sources above 4) rpmbuild -ba --define "binutils_target armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi" rpmbuild/SPECS/gcc.spec 5) rpm -i rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-binutils-2.20.51.0.12-2.fc15.x86_64.rpm 6) rpmbuild -ba --define="cross_target armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi" rpmbuild/SPECS/gcc.spec 7) as root: cd rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64 ; rpm -Uvf armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.5.1-5.cross12.x86_64.rpm armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-libgcc-4.5.1-5.cross12.x86_64.rpm armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-libgomp-4.5.1-5.cross12.x86_64.rpm armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-cpp-4.5.1-5.cross12.x86_64.rpm armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-libstdc++-4.5.1-5.cross12.x86_64.rpm 8) That's it! -Andy

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ARMv7 rootfs/repository?
by Gordan Bobic 23 Dec '10

23 Dec '10

Is there such a thing available? So far I have been working with a Sheeva Plug which is ARMv5 (Marvell Kirkwood) based, so the armv5tel was a good match. But this morning, my Genesi Efika Smartbook arrived in the post, which is ARMv7 (Freescale i.MX515 Cortex-A8), and I think there might be considerably more performance to be extracted from it if an ARMv7 compiled distro is used. I have found mentions of a F10 armv7l build for a Beagle Board, but I was hoping for a more recent distro. Is there such a thing available with a recent version of Fedora (ideally F12)? Or am I going to have to build one myself? Thanks. Gordan

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Re: [fedora-arm] ARMv7 rootfs/repository?
by Peter Robinson 23 Dec '10

23 Dec '10

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Burgess <aab(a)cichlid.com> wrote: > On 12/23/2010 01:11:18 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > are you sure the fp arg style is a kernel issue? >> > are there system calls that take floats (not in structs or arrays >> > but as a single argument)? >> >> From all the documentation about it seems so. You need to remember >> there's a lot of mainline distros (and I'm not talking about small >> embedded ones) looking to move to arm7 + hardfp but none that have yet >> done so. There's lots of notes and people that have done customer >> recompiles etc for testing and eval purposes but none that have >> actually done it yet across the entire mainline distro to run >> everything from apache to gnome. > > I guess I'm determined to learn all the dirty details here :-) > Do you know of better places to research this than the fedora-arm > list archives? Google? :-P But from some of the links that I've found or people have pointed out on #fedora-arm http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatTodo http://cygwin.com/ml/libc-ports/2009-04/msg00020.html http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-dpkg/395698-armelfp-new-architecture-na… There's also some details on both the MeeGo and Linaro wiki's that cover the direction that Ubuntu and MeeGo are taking. Peter

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where to look for fedora cross toolchain SRPMS
by Saleem Ansari 22 Dec '10

22 Dec '10

I wanted to see how the corss toolchain for fedora was built so I tried to fetch is source RPMs. All I got is "No source RPM found" as below: $ yumdownloader --source armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-gcc Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Enabling updates-source repository Enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-source repository Enabling rpmfusion-nonfree-source repository Enabling rpmfusion-free-updates-source repository Enabling livna-source repository Enabling fedora-source repository Enabling rpmfusion-free-source repository No source RPM found for armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.1.2-33.fa1.cross5.x86_64 Nothing to download Now I have two questions: 1 - Where do I locate the toolchain SRPMS? 2 - Which of the toolchains - GNUARM or CodeSourcery - is packaged for Fedora? /tuxdna

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