On 5/10/21 1:04 PM, Temlakos wrote:
On 5/10/21 10:58 AM, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
>
>
> On 5/10/21 11:32 AM, Temlakos wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 10:13 AM, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/21 10:56 AM, Temlakos wrote:
>>>> Everyone:
>>>>
>>>> Ever since the latest massive kde5 update (Saturday 8 May 2021), I
>>>> have not been able to use the task bar to switch between open
>>>> windows - and sometimes not even to start certain applications that
>>>> have taskbar icons. Anything in the System Tray is all right - like
>>>> the dnfdragora update icon, the clipboard, the new-device icon, or
>>>> the volume icon. But anything for an open window? Forget it. Every
>>>> time I click on such an object, the computer pauses for about ten
>>>> or fifteen seconds, during which it accepts no input from mouse or
>>>> keyboard - and then blanks the screen, abruptly closes all open
>>>> windows, and restarts the session. Most of the time the session is
>>>> all right, but not always - in which case I restart the machine.
>>>>
>>>> It's not the kernel. I've tried this with all three versions of
the
>>>> kernel I now have on board. (They're all three F34 builds by now.)
>>>>
>>>> It's one or more of the applications that are part of KDE Plasma.
>>>> But I despair of telling which one. That update had 185 programs in
>>>> it, and only four of them are referable to the kernel.
>>>>
>>>> I can always use the Alt-Tab trick to browse open windows to get to
>>>> any open window I want. I can always start most programs through
>>>> the Applications Menu; that icon works. I /think/ I can start one
>>>> instance of Dolphin - but starting a new instance requires the task
>>>> bar, so that's out. The only way to open two instances of Dolphin
>>>> is to connect an external device, thus giving me an excuse to open
>>>> that device in Dolphin and then switch views. (And another thing:
>>>> movement and copying from one Dolphin instance to another is also
>>>> broken. I have to use the clipboard as an intermediate step.
>>>> Otherwise Dolphin complains that it /can't read/ what I'm trying
to
>>>> move or copy.)
>>>>
>>>> In other news, my bug reporting system is broken and won't report
>>>> anything, and the KDE Daemon keeps crashing at the beginning of
>>>> every session - though I can't tell whether I'm losing anything
by
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else noticed this issue?
>>>>
>>>> Can someone having an intact reporting system, or an upstream
>>>> channel, try to report this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if the update didn't fully complete? Does this show any
>>> plasma/kf5 related updates?
>>>
>>> yum list updates
>>
>>
>> No. No updates available at this time, from any repository. Whatever
>> packages I got, the update went through. Ergo, I didn't get every
>> package that needed to change, or the latest Plasma/KF5 update
>> contains a bug or bugs related to the Task Bar.
>>
>
> Are yum running plasma under Wayland or X11 ?
As far as I know, I'm using X11. I don't remember explicitly
transferring to Wayland. I have been upgrading by the command line for
every iteration since F21 at least, and so I should always have kept the
same interface, which should be X11. I wouldn't know how to transfer to
Wayland; I'm not even sure whether that is a valid interface for desktop
hardware.
Default in Fedora 34 is wayland. Do this in Konsole and see if there is
any kwin/plasma stuff that comes back:
ps ax|grep wayland
Temlakos
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