8:17 p.m.
Hi,
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for
installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other
packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and
found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during
installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective? I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish to
have GNOME installed too. So, what is the recommended way to install
both? Should I install KDE desktop from Anaconda and then install GNOME
using Yum later? Or should it be the other way round?
So far, Fedora didn't offer any easy way to install more packages from
the DVD after installation. The user has to mount the DVD and create a
repo file and do some yum command line vodoo for installing stuff off
the DVD.
What is the recommended action plan for F18?
regards,
Syam
9:58 p.m.
On 12/15/2012 08:17 PM, Sonic wrote:
I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish to have GNOME installed too.
So, what
is the recommended way to install both? Should I install KDE desktop
from Anaconda and then install GNOME using Yum later? Or should it be
the other way round?
either way is fine, and the end result of installing either DE, and then
doing:
yum install @gnome-desktop @kde-desktop
will be approximately the same.
-- rex
5:32 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
Hi,
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for
installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other
packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and
found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during
installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective? I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish
to
have GNOME installed too. So, what is the recommended way to install
both? Should I install KDE desktop from Anaconda and then install
GNOME
using Yum later? Or should it be the other way round?
So far, Fedora didn't offer any easy way to install more packages
from
the DVD after installation. The user has to mount the DVD and create
a
repo file and do some yum command line vodoo for installing stuff off
the DVD.
What is the recommended action plan for F18?
It's the Installer team's design choice... See bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865922
Jaroslav
regards,
Syam
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5:51 p.m.
Sonic wrote:
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for
installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other
packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and
found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during
installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective?
As the KDE SIG, we don't feel strongly about it. We have always recommended
installing from the KDE live image (which gets you a KDE-only system too),
and IMHO that should still be the recommendation.
Personally, I think this way of presenting things is quite silly, but still,
it is an improvement over previous UIs where you had no viable desktop
selection at all. (You were able to check the desktops' groups, but all the
application groups were defaulting to GNOME apps and GNOME was also checked
by default.)
Kevin Kofler
7:36 p.m.
On 12/20/2012 05:21 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
As the KDE SIG, we don't feel strongly about it. We have always recommended
installing from the KDE live image (which gets you a KDE-only system too),
and IMHO that should still be the recommendation.
Personally, I think this way of presenting things is quite silly, but still,
it is an improvement over previous UIs where you had no viable desktop
selection at all. (You were able to check the desktops' groups, but all the
application groups were defaulting to GNOME apps and GNOME was also checked
by default.)
But after one proceeds with the default, how does one install more
packages off the DVD? Mairin Duffy says in the bug report
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865922) that Fedora
packagekit supported automatically recognizing of install DVD since
2009! I've never found this feature and after this,
I installed F18 in a virtual machine and there is no such feature.
As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user who
selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
regards,
Syam
1:34 p.m.
Sonic wrote:
As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user
who
selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
As kevin mentioned, our primary focus and concern is the kde live spin.
My personal opinion that the dvd media's lifetime is limited, and will
hopefully simply go away someday (it's usefulness is limited already, and
will likely only get worse over time). Energies are better spent elsewhere,
imo ymmv, yada yada.
-- rex
1:41 p.m.
Am 20.12.2012 20:34, schrieb Rex Dieter:
Sonic wrote:
> As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user who
> selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
As kevin mentioned, our primary focus and concern is the kde live spin.
My personal opinion that the dvd media's lifetime is limited, and will
hopefully simply go away someday (it's usefulness is limited already, and
will likely only get worse over time)
not as long as with live-media you can not setup such things
currently it is more or less "blow the live-setup to disk"
it is painfully enough get a useful partition layout with anaconda
because the braindead "i do not care about your order"
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1 ext4 29G 7.0G 22G 25% /
/dev/md0 ext4 485M 49M 437M 10% /boot
/dev/md2 ext4 3.6T 1.6T 2.1T 44% /mnt/data
* /dev/md0 = RAID1 over 4 disks
* /dev/md1 = RADI10 over 4 disks
* /dev/md2 = RAID10 over 4 disks
for workstations with real workloads i would never ever setup single disks
because failover AND performance
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