Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's clipboard?
I ask this since if I use my mouse to highlight an entry in a T-Bird email message and then left click to paste it into a libreoffice spreadsheet I get a window popping up with "Import Options" asking me to "Select the Language to use for Import". Yet if I do the same thing from a web page, which contains the same info that was sent via an email, I don't get a pop-up.
I suspect there must be a difference in the data but don't know what it is and what is the trigger.
On Aug 7, 2015 10:17 PM, "Ed Greshko" ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's
clipboard?
I ask this since if I use my mouse to highlight an entry in a T-Bird
email message and then left click to paste it into a libreoffice spreadsheet I get a window popping up with "Import Options" asking me to "Select the Language to use for Import". Yet if I do the same thing from a web page, which contains the same info that was sent via an email, I don't get a pop-up.
I suspect there must be a difference in the data but don't know what it
is and what is the trigger.
-- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere _______________________________________________
I don't know either, but I don't think it is specific to klipper. Try pasting into the input box above the sheet instead of directly into the cell.
--Pete
On 08/08/15 12:01, Pete Travis wrote:
On Aug 7, 2015 10:17 PM, "Ed Greshko" <ed.greshko@greshko.com mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's clipboard?
I ask this since if I use my mouse to highlight an entry in a T-Bird email message and then left click to paste it into a libreoffice spreadsheet I get a window popping up with "Import Options" asking me to "Select the Language to use for Import". Yet if I do the same thing from a web page, which contains the same info that was sent via an email, I don't get a pop-up.
I suspect there must be a difference in the data but don't know what it is and what is the trigger.
-- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere _______________________________________________
I don't know either, but I don't think it is specific to klipper. Try pasting into the input box above the sheet instead of directly into the cell.
Hadn't thought about that....
Pasting into the input box doesn't trigger anything. So, it "works".
Pasting into the cell triggers the pop-up and if I click "OK" the data gets pasted in but the font, the font size, and even the format is altered. Odd.
On Friday 07 August 2015 23:01:00 Pete Travis wrote:
On Aug 7, 2015 10:17 PM, "Ed Greshko" ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's
clipboard?
I ask this since if I use my mouse to highlight an entry in a T-Bird
email message and then left click to paste it into a libreoffice spreadsheet I get a window popping up with "Import Options" asking me to "Select the Language to use for Import". Yet if I do the same thing from a web page, which contains the same info that was sent via an email, I don't get a pop-up.
I suspect there must be a difference in the data but don't know what it
is and what is the trigger.
-- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere _______________________________________________
I don't know either, but I don't think it is specific to klipper. Try pasting into the input box above the sheet instead of directly into the cell.
--Pete
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's clipboard?
You should be able to click on the icon in the status area and it should show you the list. You can also try: qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu
If you're a frequent user of the clipboard, checkout CopyQ - which is a Qt 5 based clipboard manager with advanced functionality. It's also in the Fedora repo.
On 08/08/15 23:56, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@greshko.com mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
Is there a way to determine what really is being held in klipper's clipboard?You should be able to click on the icon in the status area and it should show you the list. You can also try: qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu
The status area only shows "printable" characters.
I'm certain there must be some unprintable stuff in there since a comparison of .local/share/klipper/history2.lst containing the same data from the different sources shows a difference.
Service 'org.kde.klipper' does not exist.
If you're a frequent user of the clipboard, checkout CopyQ - which is a Qt 5 based clipboard manager with advanced functionality. It's also in the Fedora repo.
Thanks, I may have to. Or just paste into the "input" box of the spreadsheet.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
The status area only shows "printable" characters.
I'm certain there must be some unprintable stuff in there since a comparison of .local/share/klipper/history2.lst containing the same data from the different sources shows a difference.
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I'll look around and see what I can find out on that.
Service 'org.kde.klipper' does not exist.
I normally don't use klipper anymore, but just started it on my machine and that command worked fine. Are you sure you had klipper started? It won't work if it isn't. Let me know. I'm curious about that. It should work.
If you're a frequent user of the clipboard, checkout CopyQ - which is a
Qt 5 based clipboard
manager with advanced functionality. It's also in the Fedora repo.
Thanks, I may have to. Or just paste into the "input" box of the spreadsheet.
Yeah, give CopyQ a tryout. Just be sure you don't have both it klipper running at the same time. You don't want two processes going after the clipboard at the same time.
On 08/09/15 08:09, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@greshko.com mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
The status area only shows "printable" characters. I'm certain there must be some unprintable stuff in there since a comparison of .local/share/klipper/history2.lst containing the same data from the different sources shows a difference.Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I'll look around and see what I can find out on that.
Service 'org.kde.klipper' does not exist.I normally don't use klipper anymore, but just started it on my machine and that command worked fine. Are you sure you had klipper started? It won't work if it isn't. Let me know. I'm curious about that. It should work.
Yes, it is running. The icon is always sitting in my systray. I did forget to mention this is F22, if that matters.
> > If you're a frequent user of the clipboard, checkout CopyQ - which is a Qt 5 based clipboard > manager with advanced functionality. It's also in the Fedora repo. > Thanks, I may have to. Or just paste into the "input" box of the spreadsheet.Yeah, give CopyQ a tryout. Just be sure you don't have both it klipper running at the same time. You don't want two processes going after the clipboard at the same time.
OK...
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Yes, it is running. The icon is always sitting in my systray. I did forget to mention this is F22, if that matters.
No, that's fine. That is what I am running.... enter just qdbus at a command prompt... here is the output I'm getting... you should see org.kde.klipper...
qdbus :1.1009 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-7712-1 :1.107 org.kde.kio_http_cache_cleaner :1.1072 :1.108 :1.110 :1.111 org.gnome.GConf :1.112 :1.1473 org.freedesktop.Notifications org.kde.StatusNotifierHost-4550 org.kde.plasmashell :1.15 org.kde.kwalletd :1.1535 org.kde.klipper :1.1536 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-8251-1 :1.1537 org.kde.konsole :1.1540 :1.166 :1.19 org.kde.klauncher5 :1.21 org.freedesktop.PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.PolicyAgent org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher org.kde.kappmenu org.kde.kded5 org.kde.keyboard org.kde.plasmanetworkmanagement :1.25 org.kde.kglobalaccel :1.26 org.kde.ActivityManager :1.27 org.kde.KScreen.Backend.XRandR :1.29 org.kde.kaccess :1.3 com.redhat.imsettings :1.31 org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver org.kde.ksmserver org.kde.screensaver :1.33 ca.desrt.dconf :1.34 org.kde.baloo :1.35 org.kde.krunner :1.36 org.kde.KWin org.kde.kwin.Screenshot :1.38 org.kde.polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 :1.39 org.PulseAudio1 org.freedesktop.ReserveDevice1.Audio0 org.pulseaudio.Server :1.4 org.gtk.vfs.Daemon :1.40 :1.41 org.kde.kmix :1.43 :1.45 org.kde.choqok :1.47 org.kde.kgpg :1.49 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-2698-1 :1.50 org.kde.klauncher :1.51 org.kde.kded :1.54 :1.56 org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.smplayer :1.57 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-2737-1 :1.58 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-2722-1 :1.59 org.kde.konversation :1.6 :1.60 :1.61 org.kde.knotify :1.63 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-2768-1 :1.65 org.kde.JobViewServer org.kde.kuiserver :1.67 org.gnome.DejaDup.Monitor :1.70 :1.73 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Applications :1.74 org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor :1.75 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Userguides :1.76 org.freedesktop.Tracker1 :1.77 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Extract :1.78 org.gtk.Private.AfcVolumeMonitor :1.79 org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor :1.80 :1.81 org.a11y.Bus :1.82 org.gtk.Private.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor :1.83 org.gtk.Private.GoaVolumeMonitor :1.84 :1.85 :1.86 :1.87 org.freedesktop.problems.applet :1.88 org.gnome.Identity org.gnome.OnlineAccounts :1.89 :1.90 org.freedesktop.Telepathy.AccountManager org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ChannelDispatcher org.freedesktop.Telepathy.MissionControl5 :1.91 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-2862-1 :1.92 :1.93 :1.94 :1.95 org.gtk.vfs.Metadata org.freedesktop.DBus
On 08/09/15 09:31, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
No, that's fine. That is what I am running.... enter just qdbus at a command prompt... here is the output I'm getting... you should see org.kde.klipper...
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus | grep -i klip [egreshko@meimei ~]$
Nope....
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 08/09/15 09:31, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
No, that's fine. That is what I am running.... enter just qdbus at a
command prompt... here is the output I'm getting... you
should see org.kde.klipper...
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus | grep -i klip [egreshko@meimei ~]$
Nope....
Weird... grasping at straws here... do you have qt5-qdbusviewer installed? If so, I'm stumped. If you have klipper running when you run the command, you should see it.
On 08/09/15 09:41, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@greshko.com mailto:ed.greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
On 08/09/15 09:31, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > No, that's fine. That is what I am running.... enter just qdbus at a command prompt... here is the output I'm getting... you > should see org.kde.klipper... > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus | grep -i klip [egreshko@meimei ~]$ Nope....Weird... grasping at straws here... do you have qt5-qdbusviewer installed? If so, I'm stumped. If you have klipper running when you run the command, you should see it.
Humm.... I think what I thought is not what I have....
I have a clipboard icon in my systray that I thought was klipper...but it isn't.
If I start klipper from the command line I get what you show.
So, need to figure out what is actually running and get klipper instead. :-)
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
If I start klipper from the command line I get what you show.
So, need to figure out what is actually running and get klipper instead. :-)
OK, good. Let me know what you think of CopyQ. Don't get intimidated by all the options... the defaults work great also.
Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/09/15 09:31, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
No, that's fine. That is what I am running.... enter just qdbus at a command prompt... here is the output I'm getting... you should see org.kde.klipper...
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus | grep -i klip [egreshko@meimei ~]$
Nope....
There are actually 2 Klippers in recent Plasma 4 releases and in Plasma 5: the Klipper application with system tray icon (using KStatusNotifierIcon), and the clipboard plasmoid that can also show up in the system tray. The default in Plasma 4 was the application. In Plasma 5, I remember reading they made the plasmoid the default. They behave differently. Try turning off the plasmoid in the system tray settings and running the actual application.
Kevin Kofler
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
There are actually 2 Klippers in recent Plasma 4 releases and in Plasma 5: the Klipper application with system tray icon (using KStatusNotifierIcon), and the clipboard plasmoid that can also show up in the system tray.
aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh... I forgot about that. Thanks Kevin!
On 08/09/15 10:48, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at mailto:kevin.kofler@chello.at> wrote:
There are actually 2 Klippers in recent Plasma 4 releases and in Plasma 5: the Klipper application with system tray icon (using KStatusNotifierIcon), and the clipboard plasmoid that can also show up in the system tray.aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh... I forgot about that. Thanks Kevin!
I'm not sure if I knew that to have forgotten it....but now I do. Anyway here is the oddity...
1. Clear the history... 2. qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu returns nothing 3. Highlight the text in the email and then....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu 273,902.28
4. If I try to paste in the cell of the spreadsheet I get that popup. 5. If I select that text from the klipper history it will still get the popup. 6. But, if highlight some text from say konsole which pushes the number down in the list and then select that from the history it will paste just fine.
On 08/09/15 11:02, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/09/15 10:48, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at mailto:kevin.kofler@chello.at> wrote:
There are actually 2 Klippers in recent Plasma 4 releases and in Plasma 5: the Klipper application with system tray icon (using KStatusNotifierIcon), and the clipboard plasmoid that can also show up in the system tray.aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh... I forgot about that. Thanks Kevin!
I'm not sure if I knew that to have forgotten it....but now I do. Anyway here is the oddity...
- Clear the history...
- qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu returns nothing
- Highlight the text in the email and then....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu 273,902.28
- If I try to paste in the cell of the spreadsheet I get that popup.
- If I select that text from the klipper history it will still get the popup.
- But, if highlight some text from say konsole which pushes the number down in the list and then select that from the history it will paste just fine.
Well, this does seem to be a "klipper" issue at all.
I took the "big" step to install GNOME on one of my systems and the symptoms are the same.
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