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On 11/16/2013 12:44 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 11/16/2013 02:34 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> Sorry to say this bu you look to me like someone with a strong
> case of black-white-itis. It seem you can either conceive
> changing nothing or changing everything, no compromises.
>
> I happen to think there are tons of improvements to make to a
> Fedora Server product that do not include forking the
> distribution, simply creating tools and modifying parts of it to
> provide a better tool for people looking for a server
> experience. Namely: - all the infrastructure to have a solid
> foundation for a server with, - prepackaged roles to make it
> simple to install basic infra components - excellent tools to
> install and maintain software stacks (both Fedora provided and
> externally maintained) - including prepackaged language stacks of
> various concurrent versions - including improving containers for
> whole role isolation - maybe sandboxes (but I see that more as a
> desktop tech)
>
> This is what I think we need, and to do this we do not need to
> fork and radically change everything in the distribution. The OS
> is an infrastructure tool for others and benefits from having
> large amounts of prepackaged software available (we have this now
> and makes no sense to throw it away) as well as making dead easy
> to install your own stack (and we lack exactly here where we
> should improve).
>
> One of the main requirements to allow this is to define a stable
> platform (in the APIs it uses/exposes, this is not much about how
> fast it gets refreshed).
Coming from the man that tears down the entire logic of having
server roles in the first place.
Jóhann, first: please do not resort to personal attacks. It is
unpleasant and does not plead your case effectively.
Second: perhaps its a language barrier, but I do not understand at
what point you think that Simo "tears down the entire logic of having
server roles". You did not back up this statement with an explanation
and it was therefore confusing.
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