# F17 Beta Blocker Review meeting #1 # Date: 2012-03-02 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
It's that time again! The first F17 beta blocker bug review meeting will be this Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll be running through the final blockers and nice-to-haves. An updated list of blocker bugs is available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers.
We'll be reviewing the bugs to determine ...
1. Whether they meet the beta release criteria [1] and should stay on the list 2. Whether they are getting the attention they need
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
For guidance on Blocker and Nice-to-have (NTH) bugs, please refer to - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process
For the blocker review meeting protocol, see - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Tim
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============================================= #fedora-bugzappers: F17-beta-blocker-review-1 =============================================
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-02/f17-beta-block... Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-02/f17-beta-block... Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-02/f17-beta-block...
Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (tflink, 17:01:19)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:06:41) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:07:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:07:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:07:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:07:11) * 8 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:07:29) * 1 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:07:29) * 1 Accepted Blocker (tflink, 17:07:29)
* (753421) FSError: failed to get block size for ext4 filesystem on /dev/md127 (tflink, 17:08:34) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753421 (tflink, 17:08:37) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:08:39) * AGREED: - 753421 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria. (tflink, 17:12:37)
* (787893) Anaconda needs to handle /usr move preparation on upgrade for F17 (tflink, 17:12:45) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787893 (tflink, 17:12:49) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:15:23) * AGREED: - 787893 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria (tflink, 17:16:34) * ACTION: adamw to ping anaconda team to make sure that 787893 gets fixed (tflink, 17:17:41)
* (796155) iface_ip2str returned NULL (tflink, 17:18:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796155 (tflink, 17:18:35) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:18:35) * AGREED: - 796155 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must be able to use all kickstart delivery methods (tflink, 17:20:46)
* (799312) @base and @base-x comp results in a broken system (tflink, 17:20:55) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799312 (tflink, 17:20:55) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:20:55) * 799312 is a dupe of 798373 (adamw, 17:27:19) * AGREED: - 798373 - AcceptedBlocker - When booting a system installed without a graphical environment, or when using a correct configuration setting to cause an installed system to boot in non-graphical mode, the system should provide a working login prompt without any unintended user intervention when boot is complete, and all virtual consoles intended to provide a working login prompt should do so (tflink, 17:27:41)
* (795412) No poweroff option in greeter in VM (tflink, 17:27:57) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795412 (tflink, 17:27:57) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:27:57) * AGREED: - 795412 - RejectedBlocker - Does not hit any of the beta release criteria since all of the visible methods work (tflink, 17:39:57)
* (736993) error install bootloader with serial interface install (tflink, 17:40:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736993 (tflink, 17:40:38) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:40:40) * AGREED: - 736993 - Does not hit beta release criteria as currently written, will propose change to critera and re-visit next week (tflink, 18:00:21)
* (754568) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.2.1-6.fc17: _int_free: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 18:00:31) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754568 (tflink, 18:00:35) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:00:37) * LINK: http://imgur.com/56zZx (kparal, 18:14:47) * AGREED: - 754568 - AcceptedBlocker - Since spice/qxl is the default interface for F16+ KVM, this was considered a common enough configuration to hit the beta VM criterion (#15) and the usability criterion from alpha (#16) (tflink, 18:15:57)
* (794690) PulseAudio fails to run if ConsoleKit is not present, and CK is not included currently in F17 desktop live image (tflink, 18:16:10) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794690 (tflink, 18:16:14) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:16:16) * AGREED: - 794690 - AcceptedBlocker - In most cases, the installed system must be able to play back sound with gstreamer-based applications (tflink, 18:18:40)
* (794478) [abrt] kernel: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 185s! [lxdm-binary:744] (tflink, 18:19:42) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794478 (tflink, 18:19:45) * Proposed NTH, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:19:48) * AGREED: - 794478 - AcceptedNTH - hits the alpha criterion for usability on a non-blocking DE (tflink, 18:24:11)
* (742207) No usable bootloader option during a text mode f15->f16 upgrade (tflink, 18:24:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742207 (tflink, 18:24:39) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:24:41) * 742207 is being looked into (tflink, 18:34:31)
* open floor (tflink, 18:34:55) * next blocker meeting on 2012-03-09 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 18:39:07)
Meeting ended at 18:42:24 UTC.
Action Items ------------ * adamw to ping anaconda team to make sure that 787893 gets fixed
Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to ping anaconda team to make sure that 787893 gets fixed * **UNASSIGNED** * (none)
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============================================= #fedora-bugzappers: F17-beta-blocker-review-2 =============================================
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-09/f17-beta-block... Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-09/f17-beta-block... Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-09/f17-beta-block...
Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (adamw, 17:02:19)
* Introduction (adamw, 17:07:47) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 17:07:57) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (adamw, 17:08:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 17:08:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 17:08:11) * 9 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 17:08:30) * 7 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 17:08:48)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801782 (adamw, 17:09:48) * AGREED: 801782 is a blocker per beta criterion "The default update manager in release-blocking desktops must not periodically check for updates when the system is booted live, but must periodically check for updates when running on an installed system" (adamw, 17:14:28)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787744 (adamw, 17:16:31) * AGREED: 787744 is rejected as a blocker: it doesn't really prevent direct kernel boot of the installer from working, you just need to specify some parameters for it. i.e. it's 'easily workaroundable'. accepted as NTH, if the fix is not too invasive. (adamw, 17:44:58)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800316 (adamw, 17:45:29) * AGREED: 800316 is not a blocker as the impact is fairly small (it affects only the rarely used 'skip bootloader' option). we have other bugs for more serious problems with bootloader handling on upgrade (adamw, 17:54:07)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797507 (adamw, 17:54:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800205 (pschindl, 17:59:33) * AGREED: 797507 is a dupe of 785815, we also have 800205 for the preupgrade case (which could be fixed on preupgrade side if it is not fixed on anaconda side) (adamw, 18:13:59)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736993 (adamw, 18:16:31) * AGREED: 736993 is a beta blocker: general consensus that serial console should be beta blocking, we will tidy up the criteria to reflect this (adamw, 18:25:02)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748964 (adamw, 18:25:32) * AGREED: 748964 can now be considered a dupe of 736993 as that's been re-opened for F17 Beta. 736993 is accepted as a beta blocker as it breaks serial install. (adamw, 18:34:39)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799174 (adamw, 18:35:32) * AGREED: 799174 is not a blocker: dependency issues in updates-testing are pretty common place and don't affect releases unless the problems get pushed to stable, which we would catch later (adamw, 18:38:19)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800205 (adamw, 18:38:31) * AGREED: 800205 is a blocker per criterion "The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria" (adamw, 18:41:14)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591630 (adamw, 18:41:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591630#c19 (adamw, 18:42:47) * AGREED: 591630 is a blocker: the bug infringes criteria cited in the report in the specific case of 'IPv6-only network'. we are making the determination that this is a significant enough case at this point in time to make the bug a blocker. we will report this decision to devel list and FESCo for their review (adamw, 18:50:11)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800376 (adamw, 18:51:24) * AGREED: 800376 is not a blocker: it's likely not the desired design, but in practice, upgrade *does* work with the default option. if anaconda team want to improve the design that's great, but it's not a blocker (adamw, 19:03:51)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742207 (adamw, 19:04:49) * an updates.img is available for 742207, so it's on QA to check that out and give feedback to bcl (adamw, 19:05:30)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753421 (adamw, 19:06:55) * 753421 has an updates.img available for testing, so again, needs us to test (adamw, 19:08:24)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787461 (adamw, 19:09:18)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787461 (adamw, 19:09:53) * AGREED: 787461 has morphed into a much less serious bug than initially reported, let's re-close it and ask hongqing to report his bug as a new one (adamw, 19:18:45)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787893 (adamw, 19:19:01) * fix for 787893 is in Beta TC1 and needs testing - simple f16 to f17 upgrade test should be enough (adamw, 19:21:50)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796155 (adamw, 19:22:02) * bcl says this bug should go away with the landing of noloader, which will happen Real Soon Now: ball is in anaconda team's court on this one (adamw, 19:25:05)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798373 (adamw, 19:25:24) * 798373 fix is in and tested by kparal but needs to be pushed stable and added to beta tc2 compose (adamw, 19:26:16)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754568 (adamw, 19:27:25) * ACTION: adamw to bug ajax about 754568 (adamw, 19:30:08) * 754568 no movement from developer (adamw, 19:31:17) * AGREED: meeting was unacceptably short. let's not make that mistake again. (adamw, 19:32:22)
* open floor (adamw, 19:32:47)
Meeting ended at 19:34:54 UTC.
Action Items ------------ * adamw to bug ajax about 754568
People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (336) * kparal (160) * bcl (56) * fenrus02 (55) * maxamillion (47) * pschindl (35) * buggbot (20) * nirik (15) * brunowolff (14) * zodbot (4)
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