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NVIDIA Question
by David St.Clair 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

This may be a dumb question, but why can't Redhat distribute NVIDIA binary drivers? In NVIDIA's licence (http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html) it says: "2.1.2 Linux Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux operating system may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files)." So, what's keeping RedHat from putting the drivers in the distribution? If it's a GPL thing, would it be easy to just download it during installation or at least give the option to the user? Thanks, -- David St.Clair dstclair(a)cs.wcu.edu

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What are consequences of "merger necessitates removal of ... packages due to licensing issues"
by Randall J. Parr 25 Oct '03

25 Oct '03

I received the email announcement. I have read every page at fedora.redhat.com I have found no clarification about just what the implication is of the following statement from fedora.us and similar statements at fedoda.redhat.com * This merger necessitates the removal of certain problematic packages due to licensing issues. Does this mean that we will no longer be able to go to Fedora to pickup the MP3, mplayer, etc. packages which have not been included in recent Red Hat releases because of potential licensing problems. I am not one who complained or had a problem with Red Hat taking this stand BUT I was very, very glad to able to go to Fedora and download versions of these added packages that would work with a standard install. I HAD high hopes the growth of Fedora would lead to a much, much easier to use combination RH[L] + Fedora. I am very concerned these vague statements mean that I will be forced, once more, to get these added packages from special purpose, limited, repositories which force me to particular non-standard configurations (must have ALSA, etc.) and/or back to trying to figure out how to pull together all the source, build it, etc. I have only recently, through Fedora, been able to *easily* get various sound and video apps working on my RH8 and RH9 workstations. In large part because I could apt/yum apps built to work with my standard RH installs. I am also concerned that this "open" project has made only these vague statements. This seems like a pretty major point and one which you'all should be up front about. R.Parr, RHCE Temporal Arts

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Performance testing (pass 1)
by Stephan Schutter 16 Oct '03

16 Oct '03

I compared Windows XP and RHL 9 on a Dell Laptop (C610) CPU: 1000MHZ RAM: 256MB Software: OS: WinXP RHL 9 Open office OpenOffice MS Office 2k MS Office 2k Software startup times: WinXP RHL 9 (s) (s) OS bootup 37 70 Login 8 21 Def Browser 1 7 Word 2k 4 6 Open Office 10 21 Def TextEdit 1 3 File Browser 1.5 1.5 Timings are average of 5 launches. Word on linux, suprisingly, is snappier than OpenOffice... Open Office is faster on Windows than linux... Soooo.... do I need to ask? 1. If Open Source writes better software; then why is it fatter and slower? 2. Is any one at RHL working on desktop performance? These are some of the sugestione that I may need to answe to when I present this and further data to my managers. Gys... what should I say? One of the original sugestions of why to use Linux is that it could buy you longer life on the old hardware... this does not seem to be the case.

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XFree86 weirdness: no neomagic but fb?
by Patrick 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Hi, Laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8000 which works fine on RH9 at 1024x768, 24bpp with the neomagic driver straight out of the box. Just installed beta2 (clean install). During install, the process would not get me 1024x768, 24bpp but something completely ugly. I changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config to contain imho valid entries: neomagic driver, 1024x768 resolution, 24 bit depth. When it starts up it seems like it is doing the right thing but then throttles back to a lower quality: the cross pointer gets all jagged, fonts look terrible etc. It shows in /var/log/XFree86.0.log that it uses the fb driver and *not* the neomagic driver. The resulting screen looks pretty bad. This seems b0rked to me. Running redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig and select different combinations does not make a difference. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA, Patrick

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Up2date from rawhide on severn2
by Thiago Vinhas de Moraes 08 Oct '03

08 Oct '03

Hi. I tried to subscribe to the "beta channel" on RHN for severn2, but it doesn't exist. How can I use up2date to get the latest beta updates, like we used to do on the beta1? Regards, Thiago

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Fedora Test 2 will not log in to Gnome?
by Sean Earp 07 Oct '03

07 Oct '03

Hello all- I have not been able to install Fedora Test 2 since it came out (RH 9 and Severn Beta 1 worked just fine). Today I tried installation with the updated Anaconda, and it works. (great!) However, on the first boot after installation, I can not log on to the Gnome desktop. KDE works just fine. The interesting thing is that I chose the customized install, and had Gnome checked, and KDE UNCHECKED. Just in case I missed something, I have formatted the drive 3 times and reinstalled, making SURE that gnome was selected, and KDE was not. When I attempt to log in to gnome, the screen exhibits the same behavior as if i choose the "restart X Server" option on the login screen. Is anyone else experiencing this? Can someone give me the command line option to verify that Gnome is even installed? (I'm a linux newbie, so be gentle) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Sean

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automated build tool for an src.rpm tree ?
by Balint Cristian 05 Oct '03

05 Oct '03

Hi ! Have someone developed a tool or have knowledge of some perl/python scripted stuff for automated build of a src.rpm tree wich inteligently compute dependency and start compiling/installing packages step by step in right order till whole tree is compiled and installed. PS: dont need to knoledge even some bug hunting skill :))) Thanks a lot, Cristian -- Life in itself has no meaning. Life is an opportunity to create meaning. \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ .. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/

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text vs. graphical boot
by Andre Robatino 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

This is probably a dumb question, but how do I get back the text boot while preserving the graphical login? Also, I noticed that the shutdown is still text-based (that is, when I can actually see the messages, often only the last few are visible - this has been an intermittent problem for years). Shouldn't both startup and shutdown be the same type, for symmetry?

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New extra packages...
by Nils Philippsen 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

... I put up in the last days at the usual location: http://lisas.de/~nils/redhat/rawhide/ but didn't get around to announce: - neverball-0.25.4-1: 3D ball balancing game, needs OpenGL, SDL_ttf - BitTorrent-3.3-1: new, Swarming P2P download tools (built without WxWindows GUI) - conglomerate-0.7.4-1: new, very nice XML editor - galeon-1.3.9-3: needed for Mozilla-1.4.1 (if you don't have it, don't upgrade), SRPM includes "BuildRequires: nspr-devel" spotted by Michal Ambroz <rebus(a)seznam.cz> - dink-sdl-0.0.3: SDL port of the Dink Smallwood RPG engine, crashes a lot, don't use ;-) Enjoy, Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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ANNOUNCE: Severn Test 2 Anaconda Updates Image Available
by Michael Fulbright 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

The amount of feedback we've received for the Fedora Core Severn Test 2 has been impressive. The anaconda team appreciates the time everyone has taken to test anaconda. We've put together an update image to address some of the issues which have been reported against anaconda. Depending on what kinds of problems pop up we will consider making another update at a later date. Please report any problems with this update to bugzilla, and if the update fixes a problem you reported previously please update that bug report with the new information. The update is available at: http://people.redhat.com/~msf/severn-test2-updates.img Here is the README for the update: (http://people.redhat.com/~msf/severn-test2-updates.readme) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is an updates image for Fedora Core Severn Test 2 which corrects problems in the anaconda installer. To use this image use the following command line: dd if=severn-test2-updates.img of=/dev/fd0 to write the image to a floppy disk. The contents of the disk will be destroyed. Then boot the installation media and at the command prompt enter 'linux updates'. At the appropriate time you will be prompted to insert the updates floppy. For other install methods if the severn-test2-updates.img file is renamed to 'updates.img' and put in the RedHat/base/ directory of the install tree it will be used automatically w/o the need to use a floppy disk. -------------------- Update Image Version: 1.0 Issues Addressed: ----------------- - Bugzilla #105586 - kickstart install fails with probed monitor - Bugzilla #105765 - couldn't get past text mode firewall screen if fw enabled - Bugzilla #105811 - text mode upgrade traceback - Bugzilla #105148 - In GUI install 'No firewall' option was ignored - Fixed an issue where lilo was being referenced (it is no longer shipped) ----------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Fulbright msf(a)redhat.com

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