Michal Jaegermann wrote: > The recent updates removed volume control applet from a panel. It > is still there on an "Add to panel" list but marked as "deprecated" > and when I tried, out of curiosity, to add that back to a panel then > nothing happened. Why it is still on the list is anybodys guess. > > It does not look like that any other "mixer type" application showed > up on menus as a replacement. In any case the current version of > gnome-volume-control appears to be bowdlerized now to such extent > that it is not likely to be of any use outside of the most trivial > situations; in other words not then when it is really needed. > > Is alsamixer from a terminal window the only thing left? I do not > mind, as long as somebody will not try to steal that, but I know > users with whom this will not sit very well. su -c "yum install kdemultimedia" kmix &

Note that all these volume controls set the hardware volumes, if you want to set the PulseAudio volume, that's done through pavucontrol (and that's probably the reason gnome-volume-control is deprecated, they want you to use pavucontrol instead; but there are legitimate reasons to set the hardware volumes!).

Matthias Clasen wrote: > Kevin, I know that you are proud of kde, and thats fine, but its really > getting tiring to see you jump in any thread where a Gnome application > is discussed, and advertise the kde equivalent. Well, he was asking for a graphical alternative to alsamixer, which is what KMix is. Now there may be other alternatives from XFCE etc., but I'm afraid I'm not familiar with those. As for GNOME: > And don't talk about things if you have no idea whats going on. "They" > don't want you to use pavucontrol instead. > > The plans for volume control in F11 have been laid out here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl Indeed I wasn't aware of this. Mea culpa, and thanks for pointing it out to me. However, quoting from that feature page, this: > Graphical mixers (such as the volume applet, the mixer, and the multimedia > keys handler) should be restricted to modifying PulseAudio's default > output's mixer (which could be aggregated outputs). sounds like I wasn't too far off. Now maybe that page is incorrect, so I'll ask: What options are there for people who want to tweak their hardware mixer settings from GNOME for whatever reason? Will this be possible from the volume applet/icon? From the gnome-control-center? Or only from non-GNOME apps (e.g. alsamixer, KMix etc.)?

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:12:46AM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > people who want to tweak their hardware mixer settings from GNOME for > > whatever reason? Will this be possible from the volume applet/icon? From > > the gnome-control-center? Or only from non-GNOME apps (e.g. alsamixer, KMix > > etc.)? > > you shouldn't have to. > Pulseaudio abstract the "tons of different mixers provided by alsa" to > something clear to the user. The world isn't perfect. You *will* have to at some point adjust a hardware mixer. Will this feature make any progress on these bugs? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classif... It's great to have people working to make audio better on the desktop, but we need more help fixing the underlying issues with the ALSA kernel drivers and library.

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at&gt; wrote: > > Now maybe that page is incorrect, so I'll ask: What options are there for > people who want to tweak their hardware mixer settings from GNOME for > whatever reason? you shouldn't have to. Pulseaudio abstract the "tons of different mixers provided by alsa" to something clear to the user.