On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 00:33 +0100, Paul wrote: i'm on 2.6.13-1.1530_FC5 and fully updated rawhide. i ran today's updates a while back and i never closed my root terminal (i tend to leave one open all day), but when i tried to su in another terminal: [endymion@localhost ~]$ su Password: su: incorrect password [endymion@localhost ~]$ su root Password: su: incorrect password i'm *sure* i'm putting in the correct password, i even type it out and middle-click paste it in (which works in case you've never tried it). i tried passwd'ing at the root terminal i had open and i updated the password and i *still* get the same thing. of note, i am not using selinux.