11:17 p.m.
Has anyone worked with visually impaired individuals and adaptive solutions with Fedora? I
want to learn this and am near total blindness not sure what all is out there in making
this OS acessable or how and if the windows bassed software will work within this
enviroment. Any insite, ideas or assistance would be most helpful.
2:20 a.m.
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 21:17 -0700, Charles Ross wrote:
Has anyone worked with visually impaired individuals and adaptive
solutions with Fedora? I want to learn this and am near total
blindness not sure what all is out there in making this OS acessable
or how and if the windows bassed software will work within this
enviroment. Any insite, ideas or assistance would be most helpful.
Speakup Modified is a Fedora-derived distro that includes additional
assistive tools. They might be worth taking a look at.
http://speakupmodified.org/
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8:50 a.m.
On 3/26/09, Charles Ross <rossce_tech(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Has anyone worked with visually impaired individuals and adaptive solutions
with Fedora? I want to learn this and am near total blindness not sure what
all is out there in making this OS acessable or how and if the windows
bassed software will work within this enviroment. Any insite, ideas or
assistance would be most helpful.
I haven't but I've wondered idly about this area for a while and have
some bookmarks which I hope will be useful to you.
There used to be a fair number of interesting posts from a "William F.
Acker" on speakup and other related technologies. See e.g. this link
from mid-2008
http://markmail.org/message/e3ge6326si5ddurr
Similarly Janina Sajka seems to be involved in accessibility issues
and was involved with Colin Walters in a thread about how to fix GConf
settings so that the interaction between Speakup, orca, GDM and
PulseAudio is managed properly. It sounds like she might be worth
getting in touch with:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-September/msg01240...
A much earlier (Fedora 7) post was reported by Rahul Sundaram in
Fedora Weekly News:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue102#A_view_of_Linux_as_introduced_...
Some (unused) accessibility notes from the Fedora 7 era may or may not
be of use:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Accessibility
Good luck,
Oisin Feeley
9:10 a.m.
On Thursday 26 March 2009 13:50:21 Oisin Feeley wrote:
On 3/26/09, Charles Ross <rossce_tech(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone worked with visually impaired individuals and adaptive
> solutions with Fedora? I want to learn this and am near total blindness
> not sure what all is out there in making this OS acessable or how and if
> the windows bassed software will work within this enviroment. Any
> insite, ideas or assistance would be most helpful.
I haven't but I've wondered idly about this area for a while and have
some bookmarks which I hope will be useful to you.
There used to be a fair number of interesting posts from a "William F.
Acker" on speakup and other related technologies. See e.g. this link
from mid-2008
http://markmail.org/message/e3ge6326si5ddurr
Similarly Janina Sajka seems to be involved in accessibility issues
and was involved with Colin Walters in a thread about how to fix GConf
settings so that the interaction between Speakup, orca, GDM and
PulseAudio is managed properly. It sounds like she might be worth
getting in touch with:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-September/msg01240.h
tml
A much earlier (Fedora 7) post was reported by Rahul Sundaram in
Fedora Weekly News:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue102#A_view_of_Linux_as_introduced_by
_a_blind_user_via_Orca
Some (unused) accessibility notes from the Fedora 7 era may or may not
be of use:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Accessibility
KDE offers KTTS, K-text-to-speech, which is used by KMouth. I haven't used
it, so can't comment on it, but http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/
says
* Speak any text from the KDE clipboard.
* Speak any plain text file.
* Speak all or any portion of a text file from Kate, including instances
where Kate is embedded in another KDE application.
* Speak all or any portion of an HTML page from Konqueror.
* Use as the speech backend for KMouth and KSayIt.
* Speak KDE notifications (KNotify).
* Long text is parsed into sentences. User may backup by sentence or
paragraph, replay, pause, and stop playing.
* Audio output via aRts, GStreamer (version 0.8.7 or later), or aKode.
* User-configurable filters for substituting misspoken words, choosing
speech synthesizers, and transforming XHMTL/XML documents.
Anne
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10:40 p.m.
Anne Wilson wrote:
KDE offers KTTS, K-text-to-speech, which is used by KMouth.
The biggest problem there is that it doesn't actually read the content of Qt
widgets. So while it may help people with partial eyesight like the
original poster in this thread, it won't really work for completely blind
users. Qt 4 actually has an accessibility framework, but I'm not aware of
any screen readers using it yet. Everything's waiting for AT-SPI-D-Bus, the
new cross-desktop accessibility framework (which will allow using Orca to
screenread Qt 4 apps as well, and hopefully we'll also get a KDE
screenreader) which is being worked on.
Kevin Kofler
3:09 a.m.
On Saturday 28 March 2009 03:40:47 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
> KDE offers KTTS, K-text-to-speech, which is used by KMouth.
The biggest problem there is that it doesn't actually read the content of
Qt widgets. So while it may help people with partial eyesight like the
original poster in this thread, it won't really work for completely blind
users. Qt 4 actually has an accessibility framework, but I'm not aware of
any screen readers using it yet. Everything's waiting for AT-SPI-D-Bus, the
new cross-desktop accessibility framework (which will allow using Orca to
screenread Qt 4 apps as well, and hopefully we'll also get a KDE
screenreader) which is being worked on.
Yes, for Charles, KMag may well be helpful, but I think he really needs a
screenreader as well. I wonder how far in the future this is? I know, 'How
long is a piece of string'? :-)
Anne
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1:17 p.m.
Great just can't wait... I have the same issues in windows expecialy in IM's maybe
this feature will expand to PDF read as well.
My string kwnologde goes as far as cut and paste and thats only if I get it right before
the glue drys :)
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:09:37 AM
Subject: Re: Adaptive Technology
On Saturday 28 March 2009 03:40:47 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
> KDE offers KTTS, K-text-to-speech, which is used by KMouth.
The biggest problem there is that it doesn't actually read the content of
Qt widgets. So while it may help people with partial eyesight like the
original poster in this thread, it won't really work for completely blind
users. Qt 4 actually has an accessibility framework, but I'm not aware of
any screen readers using it yet. Everything's waiting for AT-SPI-D-Bus, the
new cross-desktop accessibility framework (which will allow using Orca to
screenread Qt 4 apps as well, and hopefully we'll also get a KDE
screenreader) which is being worked on.
Yes, for Charles, KMag may well be helpful, but I think he really needs a
screenreader as well. I wonder how far in the future this is? I know, 'How
long is a piece of string'? :-)
Anne
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1:19 p.m.
Thanks --
Sometimes I think I am getting in over my head trying to learn but I keep pushing on. If I
can assist anyone in questions surrounding the requirements for someont with a visuial
impairement ie.(screen maginification, teaders, high constract and reverse colors) feel
free to call upon me.
If such leads to the devlopment and intergration of such I feel many will benefit.
Charlie
CERoss Technologies
www.cerosstechnologies.com
Also I am interested in social networking as to learn and use of FEDORIA and
similar systems.
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From: Oisin Feeley <oisin.feeley(a)gmail.com>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:50:21 AM
Subject: Re: Adaptive Technology
On 3/26/09, Charles Ross <rossce_tech(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Has anyone worked with visually impaired individuals and adaptive solutions
with Fedora? I want to learn this and am near total blindness not sure what
all is out there in making this OS acessable or how and if the windows
bassed software will work within this enviroment. Any insite, ideas or
assistance would be most helpful.
I haven't but I've wondered idly about this area for a while and have
some bookmarks which I hope will be useful to you.
There used to be a fair number of interesting posts from a "William F.
Acker" on speakup and other related technologies. See e.g. this link
from mid-2008
http://markmail.org/message/e3ge6326si5ddurr
Similarly Janina Sajka seems to be involved in accessibility issues
and was involved with Colin Walters in a thread about how to fix GConf
settings so that the interaction between Speakup, orca, GDM and
PulseAudio is managed properly. It sounds like she might be worth
getting in touch with:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-September/msg01240...
A much earlier (Fedora 7) post was reported by Rahul Sundaram in
Fedora Weekly News:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue102#A_view_of_Linux_as_introduced_...
Some (unused) accessibility notes from the Fedora 7 era may or may not
be of use:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Accessibility
Good luck,
Oisin Feeley
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2:20 p.m.
On Thursday 26 March 2009 18:19:39 Charles Ross wrote:
Thanks --
Sometimes I think I am getting in over my head trying to learn but I keep
pushing on. If I can assist anyone in questions surrounding
the requirements for someont with a visuial impairement ie.(screen
maginification, teaders, high constract and reverse colors) feel free to
call upon me. If such leads to the devlopment and intergration of such I
feel many will benefit. Charlie
CERoss Technologies
www.cerosstechnologies.com
Also I am interested in social networking as to learn and use of FEDORIA
and similar systems.
KDE also has a screen magnifier called kmag. However, I have no experience of
using it.
Perhaps you would care to try kmag and kmouth (which uses ktts). If you have
questions about their use I could possibly get answers for you. There is also
a low-volume dedicated mailing list at kde-accessibility(a)kde.org
Anne
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