3:02 a.m.
Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
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3:13 a.m.
Hi,
For this thing to work just out of the box or pretty easy to handle there is
nothing Fedora can do it is the job of Adobe to make it work seamlessly and
without any issues.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf(a)omen.com>wrote:
Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
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5:39 a.m.
Deependra Singh Shekhawat wrote:
Hi,
For this thing to work just out of the box or pretty easy to handle there is
nothing Fedora can do it is the job of Adobe to make it work seamlessly and
without any issues.
Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf(a)omen.com>wrote:
> Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
> with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
> should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
> downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
>
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John Summer field wrote:
Deependra Singh Shekhawat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For this thing to work just out of the box or pretty easy to handle
> there is
> nothing Fedora can do it is the job of Adobe to make it work
> seamlessly and
> without any issues.
>
Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
Sure enough. It's not the only show but it's the most viewed one in this
town.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
> <caf(a)omen.com>wrote:
>
>> Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
>> with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
>> should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
>> downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
>>
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>> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>> Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"
>> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665
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4:52 p.m.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:39 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Deependra Singh Shekhawat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For this thing to work just out of the box or pretty easy to handle there is
> nothing Fedora can do it is the job of Adobe to make it work seamlessly and
> without any issues.
>
Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
Even though it's still beta, anyone got it packaged to let others try?
Seems have to get quite few devel packages to configure it.
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4:56 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.net> wrote:
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:39 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
> Deependra Singh Shekhawat wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > For this thing to work just out of the box or pretty easy to handle there is
> > nothing Fedora can do it is the job of Adobe to make it work seamlessly and
> > without any issues.
> >
> Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
Even though it's still beta, anyone got it packaged to let others try?
Seems have to get quite few devel packages to configure it.
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Your friend yum knows all about it:
gnash.i386 0.8.4-5.fc10 updates
gnash-cygnal.i386 0.8.4-5.fc10 updates
gnash-klash.i386 0.8.4-5.fc10 updates
gnash-plugin.i386 0.8.4-5.fc10 updates
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4:57 p.m.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:52 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:39 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
> Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
Even though it's still beta, anyone got it packaged to let others try?
Seems have to get quite few devel packages to configure it.
yum install gnash-plugin
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5:28 p.m.
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:52 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:39 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
>> Adobe's isn't the only show in town:
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
> Even though it's still beta, anyone got it packaged to let others try?
> Seems have to get quite few devel packages to configure it.
yum install gnash-plugin
The original poster suggests, "Flash compatibility
should be installed by default."
I suggest Fedora is an ideal platform to test this (lots of users,
nobody should be too surprised when things break), so why not install it
whenever firefox, konqueror, seamonkey or epiphany is installed as part
of the initial install or a later group install?
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6:14 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM, John Summerfield
<debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
The original poster suggests, "Flash compatibility
should be installed by default."
I suggest Fedora is an ideal platform to test this (lots of users, nobody
should be too surprised when things break), so why not install it whenever
firefox, konqueror, seamonkey or epiphany is installed as part of the
initial install or a later group install?
Do many users have a use for flash with no video/audio support, zero
possibility of video/audio support, and generally poor compatibility
otherwise?
(A genuine question… Gnash is hard work and I can't fault it for being
not terribly compatible (cause you know— flash ain't done till gnash
won't run) but while something is generally better than nothing, I
don't think flash that won't ever have video is something as far as
most users are concerned)
6:53 p.m.
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Do many users have a use for flash with no video/audio support, zero
possibility of video/audio support, and generally poor compatibility
otherwise?
With the appropriate GStreamer plugins from RPM Fusion, several video and
audio stuff actually works. Not all though.
I agree about the poor compatibility, I'm not all that happy with it. Still,
it's the only Free Software Flash solution which works with Konqueror,
which is why I picked the Fedora package up when it got orphaned. (There's
swfdec, but that still doesn't have a Konqueror plugin and AFAIK their
Mozilla plugin doesn't work in Konqueror, though I haven't tried it in
4.2.)
But mostly I'd just recommend not to use Flash at all. I hate Flash ads. (At
least with Gnash you can just right-click and "Quit Gnash" to get rid of
them.) What's annoying is that Firefox keeps prompting for plugin
installation every single time. Konqueror can be told to remember a "No"
answer. If all you need Flash for is YouTube, there are downloaders who can
download the videos so they can be played with a local media player such as
Kaffeine or Totem (given appropriate xine-lib or GStreamer plugins from RPM
Fusion).
Kevin Kofler
8:52 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Do many users have a use for flash with no video/audio support, zero
> possibility of video/audio support, and generally poor compatibility
> otherwise?
With the appropriate GStreamer plugins from RPM Fusion, several video and
audio stuff actually works. Not all though.
Right, but while Fedora could ship gnash-by-default the codecs are
right out and without them is there really much reason to ship
gnash-by-default?
(or rather, is there enough benefit to offset potential browser
stability problems and potentially defeating website fallbacks (i.e.
today you might get a non-flash version of the page when no flash is
detected, but with gnash you can get a flash version that doesn't work
and no obvious way to get to the non-flash version)).
I agree about the poor compatibility, I'm not all that happy with
it. Still,
it's the only Free Software Flash solution which works with Konqueror,
which is why I picked the Fedora package up when it got orphaned. (There's
swfdec, but that still doesn't have a Konqueror plugin and AFAIK their
Mozilla plugin doesn't work in Konqueror, though I haven't tried it in
4.2.)
But mostly I'd just recommend not to use Flash at all. I hate Flash ads. (At
least with Gnash you can just right-click and "Quit Gnash" to get rid of
them.) What's annoying is that Firefox keeps prompting for plugin
installation every single time. Konqueror can be told to remember a "No"
answer. If all you need Flash for is YouTube, there are downloaders who can
download the videos so they can be played with a local media player such as
Kaffeine or Totem (given appropriate xine-lib or GStreamer plugins from RPM
Fusion).
Fortunately F11 will be shipping Firefox 3.1 with free media support.
So perhaps they'll be some progress there in the wider world.
Also, there are some sites like http://tinyvid.tv/ which will
convert video from sites like youtube to free formats. (Sites like
that can play codec licensing fees so you don't have to. :) )
4:56 p.m.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Do many users have a use for flash with no video/audio support, zero
> possibility of video/audio support, and generally poor compatibility
> otherwise?
With the appropriate GStreamer plugins from RPM Fusion, several video and
audio stuff actually works. Not all though.
I agree about the poor compatibility, I'm not all that happy with it. Still,
it's the only Free Software Flash solution which works with Konqueror,
which is why I picked the Fedora package up when it got orphaned. (There's
swfdec, but that still doesn't have a Konqueror plugin and AFAIK their
Mozilla plugin doesn't work in Konqueror, though I haven't tried it in
4.2.)
But mostly I'd just recommend not to use Flash at all. I hate Flash ads. (At
I don't like flash ads, but try this for size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5av-Ovzyk&feature=channel_page
even if you have to boot Windows to do it;-)
least with Gnash you can just right-click and "Quit Gnash"
to get rid of
them.) What's annoying is that Firefox keeps prompting for plugin
installation every single time. Konqueror can be told to remember a "No"
answer. If all you need Flash for is YouTube, there are downloaders who can
download the videos so they can be played with a local media player such as
Kaffeine or Totem (given appropriate xine-lib or GStreamer plugins from RPM
Fusion).
There may be reasons to download stuff from youtube, but none of them is
convenience for those things you only want to see once.
Kevin Kofler
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7:21 p.m.
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 02:05 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
> even if you have to boot Windows to do it;-)
Boot what? You mean that operating system I stopped using 3 years ago? ;-)
Kevin Kofler
I just download a alpha lib from adobe, and stuck it in
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and voila.
So that's what on youtube?
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
Andrew
12:25 a.m.
Andrew Allison wrote:
I just download a alpha lib from adobe, and stuck it in
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and voila.
Why are you replying to me? I don't want to install proprietary software on
my system, and especially not Flash (causes browser crashes, allows ads to
force animations on you in a way you can't stop, allows websites to read
data from your webcam and/or microphone if you have them, has a track
record of critical security issues, forces your browser to have an
executable stack and thus makes it vulnerable to security exploits, keeps
having problems with Konqueror, my browser of choice, consumes a lot of CPU
power etc.).
Kevin Kofler
8:07 p.m.
John Summerfield wrote:
I don't like flash ads, but try this for size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5av-Ovzyk&feature=channel_page
even if you have to boot Windows to do it;-)
I don't have adobe flash installed (F10 x86_64). Gnash handled that without any
problem though there are some small
commercial music sales sites where it won't play the samples (bigbaby, musiczeit).
Works fine with freesound.org though.
3:35 a.m.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 01:02 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
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4:15 a.m.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:02:02 -0800
From: caf(a)omen.com
To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com
Subject: 64 bit Firefox & Flash
Is there a simple way to get Firefox on Rawhide 64 to work
with Flash? Given how prevalent Flash is, Flash compatibility
should be installed by default. At the least it should be easily
downloadable for Linux as it is for Windows.
There is an Alpha 64 bit Flash plugin at:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
I have extracted it to /opt/Flash and then created a link to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
Seems to work well enough for now.
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