3:44 a.m.
On 28. veebruar 2006. a. 20:27, Mike A. Harris wrote:
Technically, it was renamed 2 years ago to "Fedora
Development", however since the developmental repository
for Red Hat Linux was named "rawhide" for 8-10 years or
so, the name rawhide has stuck in the minds of many
developers, and users.
One observation I've made though that this is changing
slowly, is that I haven't seen anyone file a bug report
against rawhide in bugzilla for a long time. People
are pretty much universally using "Fedora devel"
or one of the test versions when they file.
Hmmm. I'm wondering if the RAWHIDE resolution in
Bugzilla should also be renamed.
Fred
5:40 a.m.
New subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide
On 01.03.2006 10:44, Fred New wrote:
On 28. veebruar 2006. a. 20:27, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>Technically, it was renamed 2 years ago to "Fedora
>Development", however since the developmental repository
>for Red Hat Linux was named "rawhide" for 8-10 years or
>so, the name rawhide has stuck in the minds of many
>developers, and users.
>
>One observation I've made though that this is changing
>slowly, is that I haven't seen anyone file a bug report
>against rawhide in bugzilla for a long time. People
>are pretty much universally using "Fedora devel"
>or one of the test versions when they file.
>
>
you can not choose "rawhide" as version but "devel"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi
fedora core
Bugs related to the Core components of the Fedora Product distribution.
If reporting against a stable release then choose the release number you
are using as the version. The current release is 'fc4'. If reporting
against the rawhide (daily development tree) then choose 'devel' as the
version.
Hmmm. I'm wondering if the RAWHIDE resolution in
Bugzilla should also be renamed.
good question :-)
indeed, you can not choose "devel" as resolution but "rawhide"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/page.cgi?id=bug_status.html#resolution
rawhide
This resolution should not be used for RHEL bugs.. Otherwise, it means
that the problem described has been fixed in the latest development
release of our product obtainable from our ftp site.
--
shrek-m
5:22 p.m.
New subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide
Fred New wrote:
On 28. veebruar 2006. a. 20:27, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>Technically, it was renamed 2 years ago to "Fedora
>Development", however since the developmental repository
>for Red Hat Linux was named "rawhide" for 8-10 years or
>so, the name rawhide has stuck in the minds of many
>developers, and users.
>
>One observation I've made though that this is changing
>slowly, is that I haven't seen anyone file a bug report
>against rawhide in bugzilla for a long time. People
>are pretty much universally using "Fedora devel"
>or one of the test versions when they file.
Hmmm. I'm wondering if the RAWHIDE resolution in
Bugzilla should also be renamed.
The problem with that, is that "RAWHIDE" is the resolution for
many existing bugs, so can't be removed in the existing bugzilla
framework from what I understand. Long ago we added "NEXTRELEASE"
to replace "RAWHIDE", but it generally gets used for RHEL devel
and RAWHIDE still gets used for Fedora. I'm as guilty as anyone
in using the term.
It'd be nice if bugzilla had a way of saying "don't show this
resolution/status/whatever anymore in this product version
as a user selectable choice, but allow it to remain in existing
database entries, and be queryable".
The way things are now, over time new resolutions/statuses get
added, and old ones deprecated in an email sent somewhere people
might not ever even see. So people look at the list, see the
choices and choose one from what's available. As long as choices
are available which people can see, they'll use them.
Hopefully future bugzilla releases will gain the ability to
clear out cruft.
--
Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca
Proud Canadian.
2:39 a.m.
New subject: Social Engineering of Rawhide
On 3/2/06, Mike A. Harris <mharris(a)mharris.ca> wrote:
The problem with that, is that "RAWHIDE" is the resolution for
many existing bugs, so can't be removed in the existing bugzilla
framework from what I understand. Long ago we added "NEXTRELEASE"
to replace "RAWHIDE", but it generally gets used for RHEL devel
and RAWHIDE still gets used for Fedora. I'm as guilty as anyone
in using the term.
It'd be nice if bugzilla had a way of saying "don't show this
resolution/status/whatever anymore in this product version
as a user selectable choice, but allow it to remain in existing
database entries, and be queryable".
The bugzilla admin interface might not give you the option but it
wouldn't be that hard to just modify the row in the database, would
it? Everything would refer to the new name straight away.
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