Prompted by Pete Zaitcev's blog:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/zaitcev/18495.html
seen on the Feodra People planet, I had a quick check in Rawhide and can't see Pan anymore. I'm subscribed to fedora-list and fedora-test- list, and I've just looked through the web archives of fedora-desktop- list, fedora-devel-list and fedora-extras-list and can't seem to find any hint of where the discussion to (apparently) move Pan from Core to Extras happened. Can anyone point me in the direction of a URL?
I have to say that I have long had certain dissatisfactions with Pan (GTK2 but not GNOME, non-HIG compliance, UI confusion) but when all is said and done it still seems better to me than the other options. Evolution's NNTP support is really primitive, and Thunderbird lacks many of the things I'd expect from a proper NNTP client which Pan had. What is the default newsreader in Fedora Core now?
Best, Darren
D. D. Brierton said: [snip]
can't seem to find any hint of where the discussion to (apparently) move Pan from Core to Extras happened. Can anyone point me in the direction of a URL?
Check out the -devel list, the "rawhide report: 20050121" thread.
I have to say that I have long had certain dissatisfactions with Pan (GTK2 but not GNOME, non-HIG compliance, UI confusion) but when all is said and done it still seems better to me than the other options.
It's not going away, it's going to Extras. Hopefully a lot of other stuff will join it.
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:41 -0500, William Hooper wrote:
Check out the -devel list, the "rawhide report: 20050121" thread.
Thanks. I found it at last. It sounds like several others have the same reservations about moving Pan to Extras --- is there *any* newsreader in Core now which can browse yEnc encoded binary newsgroups?
It's not going away, it's going to Extras. Hopefully a lot of other stuff will join it.
Absolutely. I'm all for moving apps which provide duplicate functionality to Extras. But in the case of Pan we're losing something from Core which I think of as being pretty basic, i.e. a proper newsreader.
Best, Darren
tir, 15.02.2005 kl. 11.40 skrev D. D. Brierton:
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:41 -0500, William Hooper wrote:
Check out the -devel list, the "rawhide report: 20050121" thread.
Thanks. I found it at last. It sounds like several others have the same reservations about moving Pan to Extras --- is there *any* newsreader in Core now which can browse yEnc encoded binary newsgroups?
It's not going away, it's going to Extras. Hopefully a lot of other stuff will join it.
Absolutely. I'm all for moving apps which provide duplicate functionality to Extras. But in the case of Pan we're losing something from Core which I think of as being pretty basic, i.e. a proper newsreader.
Best, Darren
Otoh, moving things to extras migth make sure things get better tested before release, as there will be fewer packages per developer.
It also opens up the possibility for upstream developers to maintain "their own" programs in a much closer way than today.
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