I've managed to get FC1T1 installed on the "work1" machine! It took the "vga=0x310" parameter on the command line to get GRUB to boot properly. The "nofb" did *not* help the problem in the least. Udev is now rawhide of 2005-11-28 (75-4) and initializing takes a reasonable length of time (not too long). Problem Summary: Without the vga= parameter, grub would boot, and the system would continue to the point of "initializing hardware". The screen would become garbage, and the system would freeze. System config: MSI mobo with Celeron (Coppermine) CPU @ 500MHz 512 MB RAM, Trident Cyberblade/i1 video (AGP), VIA Chipset, 6GB IDE disk, zip drive (IDE), cd-rw, dvd-rom, onboard sound, etc.... I can even make it boot properly with the ATI Rage 128XL PCI card by re-writing the xorg.conf file. It still doesn't detect an ISA 3c509 PnP ethernet card. :-( The BIOS sees it fine, but to config it I have to run system-config-network and hand install eth1 as a 3c509. Kudzu doesn't see the card at all apparently. Report filed on 2005-11-28 23:18 EDT :-) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum!