11:57 p.m.
Hi,
Some initial spots/impressions of Fedora Core Test 2.
- Doing a workstation install but de-selecting the games section, still
leaves you with kdelibs being installed.
- Grub boot screen still has messy layout.
- Graphical boot is much faster - Nice! :) Still doesn't look too
appealing though.
- Beep when graphical login appears is just bloody annoying, but
I could live with it! :)
- Main part of Gnome panel goes black for around two seconds when
loading up. This never affected the same crash test dummy box with
RH 9 or Severn beta 1.
- 'Desktop' folder in 'home/username' under Gnome 2.4 is a pain because
it's case sensitive. Not everyone uses upper case in directory naming
and the ability to rename it 'desktop' or even hide it would be nice.
- Desktop icons way way spread - see:
http://www.philipwyett.dsl.pipex.com/fedora/testing/default_desktop.png
Cleaning up by name does not rectify this problem. :(
- Alot of the apps when started maximised have a problem in the top
right corner of the screen - see:
http://www.philipwyett.dsl.pipex.com/fedora/testing/moz_started_max.png
- 1 pixel wide notification area on panel is well known about!
- 'Add/Remove Applications' still doesn't work for installs.
- Mouse console services shutdown permanently fails at shutdown/reboot.
- 'md: Recovery thread got woken up' - This thing seriously needs
a line of it's own. :)
I'll keep my powder dry on Gaim bugs as I think Havoc will soon
rawhide 0.69.
Regards
Phil
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1:17 a.m.
Philip Wyett wrote:
Hi,
Some initial spots/impressions of Fedora Core Test 2.
[snip]
- Desktop icons way way spread - see:
http://www.philipwyett.dsl.pipex.com/fedora/testing/default_desktop.png
Cleaning up by name does not rectify this problem. :(
I recall reading that Gnome 2.4 had the new feature of fixing icons to a
grid, so Cleanup by name may simply snap them to the closest grid. Look
for desktop settings somewhere, hopefully that's an easy option that you
don't have to use gconf for.
I would like to note that Align to Grid was something present in the Red
Hat releases a few years ago in the early days of Gnome. I forget what
the default window manager was. Probably Enlightenment, but it might
have been Sawbox/Sawfish. I have missed it ever since and am glad to see
it back.
3:22 a.m.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 01:17, Justin Georgeson wrote:
I recall reading that Gnome 2.4 had the new feature of fixing icons
to a
grid, so Cleanup by name may simply snap them to the closest grid. Look
for desktop settings somewhere, hopefully that's an easy option that you
don't have to use gconf for.
I noticed the same thing. Haven't looked yet to see about
assigning/changing grids.
But I also noticed that on the gnome-panel, when running the
weather-applet that if you make the panel smaller in size (height wise),
the weather applet doesn't shrink with it. It stays big, therefore the
temp is below the panel and barely see the top of it.
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8:55 a.m.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:57, Philip Wyett wrote:
- Beep when graphical login appears is just bloody annoying, but
I could live with it! :)
Idea is to let blind users know when to start typing, IIRC.
- Alot of the apps when started maximised have a problem in the top
right corner of the screen - see:
This one is already in bugzilla.
I'll keep my powder dry on Gaim bugs as I think Havoc will soon
rawhide 0.69.
Chris Blizzard owns gaim, don't try to load me up with more work. ;-)
Havoc
9:09 a.m.
New subject: up2date
I installed severn test 2 last night and am trying to use up2date. I
keep getting:
Problem registering system:
Error Message:
Your account does not have access to any channels matching
(release='0.94' ,arch='i686-redhat-linux')
If you have a registration number, please register with it first at
http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/ and then try again.
Error Class Code: 19
Error Class Info: Architecture and OS
Should I be able to use up2date with severn? I am a paid subscriber for
rh9.
Thanks,
Wiley
9:26 a.m.
New subject: up2date
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:09:00AM -0400, Wiley Wimberly wrote:
I installed severn test 2 last night and am trying to use up2date. I
keep getting:
Problem registering system:
Error Message:
Your account does not have access to any channels matching
(release='0.94' ,arch='i686-redhat-linux')
If you have a registration number, please register with it first at
http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/ and then try again.
Error Class Code: 19
Error Class Info: Architecture and OS
Should I be able to use up2date with severn? I am a paid subscriber for
rh9.
I think the new Severn beta RHN channel is not yet activated,
Daniel
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10:57 a.m.
Havoc Pennington wrote:
>I'll keep my powder dry on Gaim bugs as I think Havoc will
soon
>rawhide 0.69.
Chris Blizzard owns gaim, don't try to load me up with more work. ;-)
I'm waiting to see what's in the changelog for 0.69. I see a tar.gz
file up in the download section, but very little other information.
0.68 _is_ in the tree, waiting to be pushed to the public.
--Chris
9:37 a.m.
New subject: Gaim changes
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:57:14AM -0400, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
I'm waiting to see what's in the changelog for 0.69. I see a tar.gz
file up in the download section, but very little other information.
0.68 _is_ in the tree, waiting to be pushed to the public.
The best way to see the changelog is to browse the CVS tree in SourceForge.
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gaim/gaim/ChangeLog?rev=1.786&v...
is the version from the 0.69 release.
Among other important changes, MSN support is updated to the MSN Protocol
version 9, SSL support was added (through NSS or gnutls), Jabber supports SSL,
Contact (aka Meta-Contact, aka Buddy Mergin) support was added, the perl
signal problems were fixed, Yahoo support was improved (although right now
has stopped working due to Yahoo changing their protocol again), and, as
always, a bunch of new translations.
John Thacker
4:04 p.m.
On Sep 26, 2003, Havoc Pennington <hp(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:57, Philip Wyett wrote:
> - Beep when graphical login appears is just bloody annoying, but
> I could live with it! :)
Idea is to let blind users know when to start typing, IIRC.
Another reason I love it is that now I can tell when my headless boxes
have completed booting :-)
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5:36 p.m.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 15:04, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Sep 26, 2003, Havoc Pennington <hp(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:57, Philip Wyett wrote:
>> - Beep when graphical login appears is just bloody annoying, but
>> I could live with it! :)
> Idea is to let blind users know when to start typing, IIRC.
Another reason I love it is that now I can tell when my headless boxes
have completed booting :-)
Why run X on a headless box? Just curious.
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6:02 p.m.
On Sep 26, 2003, Bill Anderson <bill(a)noreboots.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 15:04, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> Another reason I love it is that now I can tell when my headless
boxes
> have completed booting :-)
Why run X on a headless box? Just curious.
Well, it's not *really* headless. It's just one of two machines that
can be connected to a single monitor, none of which are frequently
used as desktops (although they may), and are more often used as
build servers and backup storage.
The beep is also nice to tell when the laptop in the living room
finished booting :-)
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11:50 p.m.
>Why run X on a headless box? Just curious.
To run remote, graphical apps, for example. I use kdm with XDMCP enabled
on several boxes, and then run "Xnvc -query localhost" on top to get a
remote GUI.
In that case, you're often better off running GDM without a local X
server. GDM can be configued to XDMCP-only mode very easily: just
comment out "0=Standard" in the [servers] section of
/etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, and enable XDMCP under the [xdmcp] section.
Woohoo, you're done.
You then have a box with local command-line only (you can still "startx"
or "X -query localhost" to get a graphical session) but you can get GUI
sessions remotely with "X -query targethost" or "Xnest -query
targethost". I use this configuration on the LTSP terminal server at
work. X seems to be the #1 reliability issue with linux, and I'm happy
to keep it off my servers when possible.
Craig Ringer
3:45 a.m.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 14:55, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:57, Philip Wyett wrote:
> - Beep when graphical login appears is just bloody annoying, but
> I could live with it! :)
Idea is to let blind users know when to start typing, IIRC.
Yes, that was the reason I suspected the beep was implemented for. A
good idea and no worries - ater a while I doubt I'll even notice it. :)
> - Alot of the apps when started maximised have a problem in the top
> right corner of the screen - see:
This one is already in bugzilla.
Good to know.
> I'll keep my powder dry on Gaim bugs as I think Havoc will soon
> rawhide 0.69.
Chris Blizzard owns gaim, don't try to load me up with more work. ;-)
Oops - Sorry! :) Ok, I'll wait for Chris Blizzard to rawhide it.
Regards
Phil
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