8:03 a.m.
I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
yum install blah
It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
I think this has to be fixed.
8:12 a.m.
2007/5/21, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
yum install blah
You should do:
yum install blah.x86_64
It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
I think this has to be fixed.
I agree that it is a bit annoying.
Niels
8:15 a.m.
Niels Weber wrote:
2007/5/21, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
> I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
> yum install blah
You should do:
yum install blah.x86_64
> It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
>
> I think this has to be fixed.
I agree that it is a bit annoying.
Niels
I think it's more than annoying. It is first of all, a radical change in
the behavior I'm used to. I bet this is going to surprise a lot of users.
8:23 a.m.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 09:15:19AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
Niels Weber wrote:
> 2007/5/21, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
>> I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
>> yum install blah
>
> You should do:
>
> yum install blah.x86_64
>
>> It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
>>
>> I think this has to be fixed.
>
> I agree that it is a bit annoying.
>
> Niels
>
I think it's more than annoying. It is first of all, a radical change in
the behavior I'm used to. I bet this is going to surprise a lot of users.
Change? It's been like that ever since multilib was introduced.
I agree it's annoying, though.
Regards,
R.
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12:33 p.m.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Niels Weber wrote:
2007/5/21, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
>I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
>yum install blah
You should do:
yum install blah.x86_64
If you do many packages at once, or things get pulled through
dependencies, then
yum --exclude='*.i??6' install ... ....
works too. If you do not plan to even install x86 packages then
putting such exclude into your yum configuration could be an
option.
I agree that it is a bit annoying.
Additionally for some unclear, to me, reasons this is not even
always consistent. Sometimes it will not try to grab extra
packages even when '.x86_64' specification was forgotten.
Michal
12:39 p.m.
this happened to me when i upgraded centos4x86_64 to centos5i386. it was
fixed by putting explicitly i386 on repo files, and yum clean, and removing
whatever files in /var/cache/yum mention x86_64. but may be a false positive
:)
2007/5/21, Michal Jaegermann <michal(a)harddata.com>:
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Niels Weber wrote:
> 2007/5/21, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
> >I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
> >yum install blah
>
> You should do:
>
> yum install blah.x86_64
If you do many packages at once, or things get pulled through
dependencies, then
yum --exclude='*.i??6' install ... ....
works too. If you do not plan to even install x86 packages then
putting such exclude into your yum configuration could be an
option.
> I agree that it is a bit annoying.
Additionally for some unclear, to me, reasons this is not even
always consistent. Sometimes it will not try to grab extra
packages even when '.x86_64' specification was forgotten.
Michal
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11:37 p.m.
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 09:03 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
yum install blah
It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
I think this has to be fixed.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235756
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11:56 a.m.
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Neal Becker wrote:
I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
yum install blah
It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
This only happens if you have both i386 and x86_64 repos enabled. This is
not default configuration. If you enable only x86_64 then this repo only
contains i386 packages for libs and apps that are necessary also on x86_64
platform.
Adam Pribyl
12:04 p.m.
Adam Pribyl <pribyl <at> lowlevel.cz> writes:
This only happens if you have both i386 and x86_64 repos enabled.
This is
not default configuration. If you enable only x86_64 then this repo only
contains i386 packages for libs and apps that are necessary also on x86_64
platform.
The x86_64 repo also contains lots of i386 "multilib" packages.
You have to explicitly exclude them if you don't want them, or use another
dependency solver which treats them as separate packages, such as apt-rpm
(which uses foo and foo.32bit).
Kevin Kofler
12:16 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 13:04:33 Kevin Kofler wrote:
You have to explicitly exclude them if you don't want them, or
use another
dependency solver which treats them as separate packages, such as apt-rpm
(which uses foo and foo.32bit).
Yum sees them as both too. foo.x86_64 vs foo.i386. You can exclude=*.i?86 in
your /etc/yum.conf and exlude all i386 packages, likewise do a 'yum remove
\*.i?86' to cleanse your system of non x86_64 or noarch packages.
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1:10 p.m.
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 13:04:33 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> You have to explicitly exclude them if you don't want them, or use
> another dependency solver which treats them as separate packages, such as
> apt-rpm (which uses foo and foo.32bit).
Yum sees them as both too. foo.x86_64 vs foo.i386. You can
exclude=*.i?86 in your /etc/yum.conf and exlude all i386 packages,
likewise do a 'yum remove \*.i?86' to cleanse your system of non x86_64 or
noarch packages.
I don't want to exclude all i386 packages. There are a set of i386 packages
that should nominally be installed on an x86_64 system. I want those. I
just don't want to get i386 versions of everything.
1:20 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:10:46 Neal Becker wrote:
I don't want to exclude all i386 packages. There are a set of
i386
packages that should nominally be installed on an x86_64 system. I want
those. I just don't want to get i386 versions of everything.
You'll have to figure out what that 'set' of packages is. The only thing I
can think of would be wine.i386 if you wanted that, and firefox.i386 if
nspluginwrapper doesn't work for you. Everything else is the multilib case,
and that's what's made available in the x86_64 repo. You're not getting i386
versions of everything, you're getting i386 versions of what is considered
the multilib set, which is determined by the multilib function of mash.
http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/mash;a=blob_plain;f=mash/multilib....
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1:47 p.m.
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:10:46 Neal Becker wrote:
> I don't want to exclude all i386 packages. There are a set of i386
> packages that should nominally be installed on an x86_64 system. I want
> those. I just don't want to get i386 versions of everything.
You'll have to figure out what that 'set' of packages is. The only thing
I can think of would be wine.i386 if you wanted that, and firefox.i386 if
nspluginwrapper doesn't work for you. Everything else is the multilib
case,
and that's what's made available in the x86_64 repo. You're not getting
i386 versions of everything, you're getting i386 versions of what is
considered the multilib set, which is determined by the multilib function
of mash.
http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/mash;a=blob_plain;f=mash/multilib....
Here's a random example:
sudo yum install smb4k
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Loading "changelog" plugin
Loading "kernel-module" plugin
Loading "merge-conf" plugin
Loading "priorities" plugin
Loading "allowdowngrade" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package smb4k.i386 0:0.8.3-1.fc7 set to be updated
---> Package smb4k.x86_64 0:0.8.3-1.fc7 set to be updated
Dependencies Resolved
=============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Installing:
smb4k i386 0.8.3-1.fc7 development 1.7 M
smb4k x86_64 0.8.3-1.fc7 development 1.7 M
Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install 2 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Total download size: 3.4 M
Is this ok [y/N]:
Off the top of my head, I can't think what would pull in 2 versions of smb4k.
1:54 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:47:11 Neal Becker wrote:
Off the top of my head, I can't think what would pull in 2
versions of
smb4k.
Here is the deal. When you ask yum to install a package (without specifying
arch) it will install any arches of that package available in the repos you
have configured. Both smb4k.i386 and smb4k.x86_64 are in the x86_64 repo,
therefor you get them both. smb4k is considered multilib, because there
is 'smb4k-devel'. So smb4k-devel.i386 is brought in as multilib, which has a
dep on the i386 build of smb4k, thus that is brought in as well.
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5:02 p.m.
On Tue, 22 May 2007 18:56:29 +0200 (CEST)
Adam Pribyl <pribyl(a)lowlevel.cz> wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Neal Becker wrote:
> I have several x86_64 with current rawhide. If I do
> yum install blah
>
> It will install both blah.i386 and blah.x86_64.
This only happens if you have both i386 and x86_64 repos enabled. This is
not default configuration. If you enable only x86_64 then this repo only
contains i386 packages for libs and apps that are necessary also on x86_64
platform.
Actually I have a different problem. I was just fixing up some breakage
in my f7t4 partition by manually installing some things and if I do
something like:
yum install libwhatever.so.1
it only installs the i386 library even though I wanted both. Fortunately
the output from that install allows me to determine that the library
is in the rpm named whatever-libs so I can then:
yum install whatever-libs.x86_64
and get the missing 64 bit version.
5:08 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 18:02:16 Tom Horsley wrote:
Actually I have a different problem. I was just fixing up some
breakage
in my f7t4 partition by manually installing some things and if I do
something like:
yum install libwhatever.so.1
it only installs the i386 library even though I wanted both. Fortunately
the output from that install allows me to determine that the library
is in the rpm named whatever-libs so I can then:
yum install whatever-libs.x86_64
and get the missing 64 bit version.
You'd need to do 'yum install /usr/lib64/libwhatever.so.1' or 'yum
install "libwhatever.so.1()(64bit)" as that is what the provides are in the
package. (not sure this second one will work, but using the full path will
certainly work)
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9:22 a.m.
On 5/22/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 18:02:16 Tom Horsley wrote:
> Actually I have a different problem. I was just fixing up some breakage
> in my f7t4 partition by manually installing some things and if I do
> something like:
>
> yum install libwhatever.so.1
>
> it only installs the i386 library even though I wanted both. Fortunately
> the output from that install allows me to determine that the library
> is in the rpm named whatever-libs so I can then:
>
> yum install whatever-libs.x86_64
>
> and get the missing 64 bit version.
You'd need to do 'yum install /usr/lib64/libwhatever.so.1' or 'yum
install "libwhatever.so.1()(64bit)" as that is what the provides are in the
package. (not sure this second one will work, but using the full path will
certainly work)
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includepkgs=glibc\* libX11\* libXau\* libXdmcp\* libXext\* nvidia-x11-drv\*
exclude=*.i?86
How should includepkgs look? If I do this to install nvidia-x11 the
exclude kills it. It wants the following i[3,6]86 packages.
nvidia-x11-drv x86_64 1.0.9755-1.nodist.rf rpmforge
11 M
Installing for dependencies:
glibc i686 2.5-12 base 5.1 M
libX11 i386 1.0.3-8.0.1.el5 updates 796 k
libXau i386 1.0.1-3.1 base 18 k
libXdmcp i386 1.0.1-2.1 base 19 k
libXext i386 1.0.1-2.1 base 35 k
10 a.m.
On Monday 28 May 2007 10:22:17 Justin Conover wrote:
includepkgs=glibc\* libX11\* libXau\* libXdmcp\* libXext\*
nvidia-x11-drv\*
exclude=*.i?86
How should includepkgs look? If I do this to install nvidia-x11 the
exclude kills it. It wants the following i[3,6]86 packages.
If this is in your /etc/yum.conf, don't escape the asterisks.
includepkgs=glibc* libX11* libXau* libXdmcp* libXext* nvidia-x11-drv*
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10:58 a.m.
On 5/28/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Monday 28 May 2007 10:22:17 Justin Conover wrote:
> includepkgs=glibc\* libX11\* libXau\* libXdmcp\* libXext\* nvidia-x11-drv\*
> exclude=*.i?86
>
> How should includepkgs look? If I do this to install nvidia-x11 the
> exclude kills it. It wants the following i[3,6]86 packages.
If this is in your /etc/yum.conf, don't escape the asterisks.
includepkgs=glibc* libX11* libXau* libXdmcp* libXext* nvidia-x11-drv*
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