================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting ================================== Meeting started by jlaska at 14:59:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-21/fedora-qa.2010... . Meeting summary --------------- * Gathering critical mass (jlaska, 15:00:05) * IDEA: New QA motto - "Testing Fedora is like stuffing a badger down your trousers; you don't really know when it's going to bite." (jlaska, 15:02:46) * Previous meeting follow-up (jlaska, 15:04:44) * jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 (jlaska, 15:04:55) * adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future (jlaska, 15:06:44) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000703.html (jlaska, 15:07:16) * ACTION: wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage (jlaska, 15:09:10) * jlaska to propose a clean-up of the Critical Path Packages wiki to be a suitable home for critpath information (jlaska, 15:11:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages (jlaska, 15:12:05) * ACTION: jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value (jlaska, 15:16:30) * F14 QA Recommendations (jlaska, 15:16:58) * Jlaska organized Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective feedback into a list of QA recommendations for Fedora 14. (jlaska, 15:17:32) * Proventester Update (jlaska, 15:22:44) * Systemd QA preparation (jlaska, 15:30:33) * Viking-ice noted that Features/systemd was approved by FESCO and wanted to propose several QA ideas. (jlaska, 15:30:53) * adamw reached out to lennart for interest on a F14 test day (jlaska, 15:32:19) * ACTION: Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review (jlaska, 15:35:58) * ACTION: jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content (jlaska, 15:36:39) * AutoQA updates (initscripts, prioritization status) (kparal, 15:40:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000687.html (jskladan, 15:43:52) * jskladan wrote an explanation how to contribute with initscripts, will put it on the wiki (kparal, 15:46:47) * jlaska gathered huge number of machines available for autoqa testing (kparal, 15:47:06) * Infrastructure team comes to QA's rescue -- thanks mmcgrath and smooge! (jlaska, 15:48:04) * jskladan recruited another volunteer to help up with virtualization, Ray Chen (kparal, 15:48:57) * Open discussion <your topic here> (kparal, 15:51:36) * Interesting test idea for anyone interested -- http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (jlaska, 15:52:34) * TCs/RCs archive (kparal, 15:52:50) * ACTION: robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs (kparal, 15:57:23) * test case: ABI - stability check (kparal, 15:58:13) * http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (kparal, 15:58:23) * LINK: http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (kparal, 15:58:31) * ACTION: jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check (kparal, 16:02:09) * Open discussion <your topic here> (kparal, 16:02:36) Meeting ended at 16:04:27 UTC. Action Items ------------ * wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage * jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value * Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review * jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content * robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs * jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jlaska * jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value * jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content * jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check * robatino * robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs * Viking-Ice * Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review * **UNASSIGNED** * wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (103) * kparal (56) * adamw (38) * jskladan (17) * Viking-Ice (8) * robatino (6) * zodbot (4) * mmcgrath (2) * dafrito (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Minutes (html): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-21/fedora-qa.2010... Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-21/fedora-qa.2010... Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-21/fedora-qa.2010...