On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:56 PM Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Hi folks! We're still trying to get F39 done, so time for another status update...

Action summary

Accepted blockers

1. kexec-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243068 - VERIFIED: releng

to push the fix stable

2. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED: desktop

team (and adamwill) to keep trying to come up with a fix

3. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW: assume this will

be waived

4. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED: ARM

team (pbrobinson) to fix it

5. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2244305 - ASSIGNED: ARM

team to evaluate and fix if possible, ARM/QA to test on more systems if possible

6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at

all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to document this

Bug-by-bug detail

Accepted blockers

1. kexec-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243068 - VERIFIED

kdump is enabled by default on desktops

This is basically fixed, just waiting to be pushed stable.

2. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED

Netinstall ISO renders a black screen when using kickstart install (bare metal and VM)

Well, we kinda had a fix for this, but it turns out to break something even worse (now anaconda isn't visible on the Workstation live image). So we're still stuck trying to find a perfect fix, unfortunately. Desktop team plus me to keep cranking away on it.

3. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW

Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards

Let's just assume this is gonna be waived.

4. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED

Fedora-Workstation-39_Beta-1.1 boots to a black screen on Raspberry Pi 4

Peter says "So we've basically got to the bottom of the problem and worked out the issue, I now just need to come up with a fix.", so that's what we're waiting on.

5. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2244305 - ASSIGNED

Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from microSD card slot

This one's also waiting on ARM team (i.e. Peter), but seems somewhat less clear-cut of a blocker, so we're kinda waiting for his take on that, plus testing from other Raspberry Pi owners would be useful.

6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW

dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre- dates gpg key

We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not practically fixable.

I'm just spitballing here for item (6), but can you install a dummy package on the RPI's with no real time clock, and interpret the presence of the package to mean "skip time checks"? Maybe something like skip-time-check.rpm?

We used to experience these kinds of problems a lot back in the early 2000s on mobile devices without a SIM card. The phone would reboot, but was unable to acquire time from the network because there was no access to the mobile network. It was especially common for old test phones. You would have your current mobile phone with service, and 4 or 5 test phones without SIM cards.

Jeff