I've been a KDE user for many years and have just recently switched to GNOME, for what is basically a single reason: GDM.
GDM in my opinion offers a fantastic user experience with a super simple "user switch" feature. In family we all use the same PC so people are constantly switching user.
What happens when I run KDE in GDM or in its own login manager is something like this: 1) switch user 2) end up in a screen with various (dubious) icons, with "user name", a "+", a "create new session" button, an "unused" session?? 3) press some of them a bit randomly till I finally go back to the GDM login
In GNOME this is super slick as the step 2) is completely removed. "Switch user" takes you immediately to the user list.
Can this be achieved in KDE?
On 2019-12-09 22:00, mario futire wrote:
I've been a KDE user for many years and have just recently switched to GNOME, for what is basically a single reason: GDM.
GDM in my opinion offers a fantastic user experience with a super simple "user switch" feature. In family we all use the same PC so people are constantly switching user.
What happens when I run KDE in GDM or in its own login manager is something like this:
- switch user
- end up in a screen with various (dubious) icons, with "user name", a "+", a "create new session" button, an "unused" session??
- press some of them a bit randomly till I finally go back to the GDM login
In GNOME this is super slick as the step 2) is completely removed. "Switch user" takes you immediately to the user list.
Can this be achieved in KDE?
When you go to the "Leave" section on the KDE menu there is a "Switch User" option. Have you tried that?
On 2019-12-09 22:00, mario futire wrote:
When you go to the "Leave" section on the KDE menu there is a "Switch User" option. Have you tried that?
This is exactly what I do. It takes you to the KDE login manager: why? I already have GDM running. There are plenty of non required options: some user names, "unused", "+", "start new session", "back", "switch user".
It is just a few clicks, but GNOME / GDM is way more direct and slick.
And already having to convince family to use Fedora I don't want to explain another odd thing.
mario futire wrote:
In GNOME this is super slick as the step 2) is completely removed. "Switch user" takes you immediately to the [GDM] user list.
And this in turn implies that GNOME supports user switching ONLY with GDM. If you use any other login manager, GNOME user switching will not work. (That was a deliberate design decision when they switched from the old user switching method, which worked with several login managers, to using GDM- specific interfaces.)
KDE Plasma is designed to work with many login managers (including, but not limited to, GDM) and hence includes its own user switching dialog that is not tied to a particular login manager. (And what you are seeing is not the "KDE login manager", but a KDE Plasma dialog that looks similar to the SDDM login manager that the KDE Project recommends, but is not based on SDDM code. I think the dialog is actually technically a part of the KDE Plasma screenlocker, which is also where the "Back" button brings you.)
There may be issues in how that dialog interacts with GDM (which may also be due to limitations in GDM's API, given that the GDM developers obviously want user switching to be done their GDM-specific way, as GNOME does it), but the existence of the dialog is not by itself a bug.
Kevin Kofler
KDE Plasma is designed to work with many login managers (including, but not limited to, GDM) and hence includes its own user switching dialog that is not tied to a particular login manager. (And what you are seeing is not the
I think what you say is true and it is a demonstration why KDE Plasma does *not* play well with other login managers. Why should it include its own switching dialog when there is already a login manager running above it? It looks to me just defensive programming as in the past some cases some login managers do not work and we write our own just in case.
GNOME Desktop delegates all login and switching to THE login manager.
Anyway, I've tried to use KDE and SDDM together, not just KDE and GDM and I had to press the reset button twice in 5 minutes (plus one last week when I started this thread).
Unfortunately for multi login, GDM is the only viable solution and nothing I have seen in F31 makes me change my mind.
Regards
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