On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 03:39 -0500, Patrick Barnes wrote: >I have been looking over the many Fedora-related sites and gathering >information about what is out there and how it is organized. I have >been trying to determine what really needs improvement and how that >improvement can be achieved. I had some thoughts relating to >http://fedoraproject.org and posted them to fedora-docs-list, and it was >suggested that I send them here (fedora-marketing-list) instead. I have >also sent this message to Seth Vidal. Below is an excerpt from my >original post: > >I'm not sure how many people actually use this base URL, but it needs >some loving. > >One idea that I had is that this URL could redirect to >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ and that the Wiki's front page could >feature all of the existing links, with a brief description. This would >allow easier maintenance, and would automagically make the page more >useful. > >With Red Hat announcing the creation of The Fedora Foundation, it seems >like Fedora's information will eventually move away from >fedora.redhat.com to its own domain. I don't know if this would be >fedoraproject.org or something entirely different. If the migration is >to fedoraproject.org, then my above suggestion would not create any >problems. Simply removing the redirect and dropping content similar to >fedora.redhat.com would be acceptable. The Wiki and the rest of the >fedoraproject.org hierarchy would not conflict with the content >currently at fedora.redhat.com, and links could be added to whatever >main page is at the base URL to direct people to the current >fedoraproject.org content. If anyone needs any clarification on my >thinking, drop me a line. > > Here's what I think: I agree with you about the fedoraproject.org page needing to be more useful. Put together a prototype for the front page. I think doing it all exclusively in the wiki will result in a fairly ugly webpage but I'm open to give it a try. Set yourself up a wiki account, I'll give you privs to change a page and you make a 'newfrontpage' page and we'll work from there to see if it works. It's a good place to start and if it all looks well I'll do the leg work to turn it into the main page. sound cool? -sv

BTW, I started a FAQ page there because I think we should have one: http://www.fedoraproject.com/wiki/FAQ

> Set yourself up a wiki account, I'll give you privs to change a page and > you make a 'newfrontpage' page and we'll work from there to see if it > works. Do we really need this "edit to the EditGroup" step -- Isn't that counter-productive in a wiki? Okay, maybe we need this for some pages. But not for all. And yes, It helps against spammers.

But can I add everyone to the EditGroup who asks for access? This is not specified. In the beginning only hand selected people got access (at least I had to find a sponsor who knew me with a gpg signed mail etc.) -- now it seems everyone who asks for access gets it.

What I'd like is a statement "Yes, everyone can get access here -- we're not a closed development group, we just want to avoid spammers" (or something like that) on the FrontPage after "In order to help in the editing you must first setup an account by going to UserPreferences. After that, inform someone within the EditGroup, so that they can add you."

BTW, the new layout is a lot better than before. thx skvidal!

But even before that I'd love to get someone who has some skill with stylesheets to design a better wiki theme than the one we're using. Maybe one more 'fedoraish'. Who should I talk to about that? Dianna Fong?