1:53 p.m.
Is there anything we can do to better clear up understandings like this?
-Mike
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Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:30:38 -0600
From: Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com>
Reply-To: EPEL development disccusion <epel-devel-list(a)redhat.com>
To: EPEL development disccusion <epel-devel-list(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: sponsorship from RH ?
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Issues w/ CentOS should be reported to CentOS.
> Issues w/ EPEL should be reported to redhat.
>
** NOT DIRECTED AT Gilboa **
This comment bugs me to my very core since RedHat has had so little to
do with EPEL. I'm proud of this fact but it frustrates me not as a RH
employee but as someone that was a Fedora volunteer before I was hired at
RH. EPEL's steering comittee and much of the work that came to make it a
The big issue with the confusion is that Fedora's bugzilla is Red
Hat's bugzilla. So if I want to push an EPEL bug I report to "redhat".
If I want to report a fedora bug.. I report to "redhat". This is one
area where Red Hat's brand squashes Fedora's brand in people's minds.
Squashes it dead. People will equate EPEL == Red Hat for many
reasons.. but that is the one that stands out in my mind the most.
(next to epel-devel-list(a)redhat.com versus fedoraproject.org or some
such thing).
reality and what it is today was done not by RH but by volunteers.
EPEL
is a team, they get support from Fedora, who gets support from RH sure.
Even the RH employees that were and are involved do a lot of it in their
free time. But EPEL is a team of people and even though it's young, i'ts a
mature organization that can and does deal with its own issues.
-Mike
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2:10 p.m.
New subject: sponsorship from RH ? (fwd)
On Mon, 26 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Mike McGrath wrote:
> Is there anything we can do to better clear up understandings like this?
>
> -Mike
Wasn't there some decisions made by the Fedora Board to move mailing lists
into Fedora infrastructure?
Not that I'm aware, do you have the notes that discuss that decision?
AFAIK they're still looking at what options are available.
-Mike
2:23 p.m.
New subject: sponsorship from RH ? (fwd)
Mike McGrath wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Mike McGrath wrote:
>> Is there anything we can do to better clear up understandings like this?
>>
>> -Mike
> Wasn't there some decisions made by the Fedora Board to move mailing lists
> into Fedora infrastructure?
>
Not that I'm aware, do you have the notes that discuss that decision?
AFAIK they're still looking at what options are available.
I was incorrect. Apparently there is a branding discussion however which
should help. People frequently overlook the impact of simple rebranding.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-04-29
Rahul
2:13 p.m.
New subject: sponsorship from RH ? (fwd)
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Is there anything we can do to better clear up understandings like
this?
On this particular front, I really like what I'm seeing in rhbz3.2 -
It makes it quite clear that even though we might share the same
bugzilla instance, there are two separate classifications of products
- those that are produced by RH, and those that are Fedora. Red Hat
is just providing us infrastructure there.
As far as the mailing lists being @redhat.com, we have a solution for
that now, but I was under the impression that we weren't going to
migrate lists. Perhaps we should revisit that decision?
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