12:26 p.m.
http://tinyurl.com/29rgk9
This is a good article. It was on the front page of LWN.
It's about "rolling your own Linux distro" and when I clicked on it, I
was very hopeful that I would see a discussion of Fedora's custom build
and respin tools.
We *believe* that we have done tons of work in highlighting those
features over the past year.
Unfortunately, there was no mention of it in the article. This is only
a single sample, and I don't want anyone spamming the author.
Instead, I was hoping that we could use this as an opportunity for Leigh
or Caroline to teach Fedora Marketing List a little something about how
we can better highlight our own "core features" so that when someone
goes to research an article like this, they find Fedora.
--Max
12:49 p.m.
Unfortunately, there was no mention of it in the article. This is
only
a single sample, and I don't want anyone spamming the author.
Not suggesting we spam the author, but a single person writing in a
polite manner asking why he didn't talk about it might be worth while.
For 1 it would help us to know where we went wrong (i.e. did he just not
know about it, or did he not include it for some other reason) and 2 it
would let him know for the future about its existence.
On the point of where we might have failed here, I would love to hear
Leigh or Caroline's thoughts on it :) One quick observation from myself:
a google for "spin your own distro" results with Revisor being 3 of the
top 4 results; "rolling your own distro" results in no Fedora related
results in the top page. This could provide some level of explanation,
but perhaps if we'd really succeeded the author would have gone out
looking specifically for Fedora info.
Best wishes,
Jon
1:04 p.m.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:49:17 +0000
Jonathan Roberts <jonathan.roberts.uk(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
On the point of where we might have failed here, I would love to
hear
Leigh or Caroline's thoughts on it :) One quick observation from
myself: a google for "spin your own distro" results with Revisor
being 3 of the top 4 results; "rolling your own distro" results in no
Fedora related results in the top page. This could provide some level
of explanation, but perhaps if we'd really succeeded the author would
have gone out looking specifically for Fedora info.
This is probably my fault. I used the term "spins" and it's caught on
within the Fedora world, but maybe the rest of the world is used to the
term roll?
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2:59 p.m.
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 14:04 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:49:17 +0000
Jonathan Roberts <jonathan.roberts.uk(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> On the point of where we might have failed here, I would love to hear
> Leigh or Caroline's thoughts on it :) One quick observation from
> myself: a google for "spin your own distro" results with Revisor
> being 3 of the top 4 results; "rolling your own distro" results in no
> Fedora related results in the top page. This could provide some level
> of explanation, but perhaps if we'd really succeeded the author would
> have gone out looking specifically for Fedora info.
This is probably my fault. I used the term "spins" and it's caught on
within the Fedora world, but maybe the rest of the world is used to the
term roll?
We can change our usage of this any time, and it's probably a good
chance Google will catch on shortly. We like to be innovative with
everything in Fedora, but this is a good lesson for us that sticking
with (or mixing in) the terminology people know, when appropriate, is
worthwhile.
I think Mairin's cartoon "distro-spinners" make a much cooler visual
counterpoint than people rolling... uh... well, whatever it is they
roll. Dough! Yes, dough. Fedora dough rollers. *Ahem.* No reason we
can't use other terminology to come up with visual statements, and mix
in the standard usage to help people catch on to the newer, shinier
stuff.
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11:32 p.m.
2008/1/24 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)j2solutions.net>:
This is probably my fault. I used the term "spins" and
it's caught on
within the Fedora world, but maybe the rest of the world is used to the
term roll?
I don't think its the terminology. "Respin" is used multiple times in
the correct context as we would use it.
On page two "Respin An Existing Distribution". That section contains
multiple use of the word respin in context of customization of an
existing distribution.
Again on page three "respin" is used in the context of customizing an
existing distro.
I think this is the first article ive seen in a long while that
attempted to cover gentoo, or LFS at all...and this one covers both.
The fact that LFS and puppy are covered in the same article feels
really odd to me..but I'll leave most of what I'm thinking unsaid
because its not really that constructive.
Anyways, I don't think its terminology here, I think its more about
laypress education about what sort of things can be done with Fedora.
-jef
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