On 4/26/06, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote: I was talking about the red hat near Fedora Core on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_project_organization.png -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 16:36 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Feel free to ask me off list. I am planning to write up a article on how the current governance model works. Rahul

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Nicu Buculei wrote: Nicu, Thanks for working on this! I think what you've got is pretty close. Ambassadors is an official Fedora Project -- I'm not really sure why you have it off to the side. And on a simply artistic view, I *personally* find that the checkered background makes it very hard to read. I'd like to see it with just a plain white background, so we can have a comparison. This is a *huge* improvement from the image that's currently up there on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Project --Max -- Max Spevack + gpg key -- http://people.redhat.com/~mspevack/mspevack.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21

On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 18:04 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Should RHEL be below Fedora Core/Extras or a separate entity on the same level? It seems that RHEL and Fedora Linux influence each other rather than RHEL being a more polished version of Fedora. With RHEL underneath Fedora, it seems to support the (untrue) idea that Fedora is the beta version of RHEL. Maybe a bi-directional arrow connecting the two at the same level would indicate their relationship better. Personally, I think the color makes things clearer IFF the intention is to emphasis the differences between Red Hat and Community volunteers. I don't know that that's the message we want to project, though. It seems like the direction the Project is taking is that individuals within Red Hat are being paid to work on Fedora and promote things that make it a good investment for Red Hat rather than a Red Hat entity is half of the decision making process. I could be wrong on that, though. -Toshio

Thomas Chung wrote: ^^ and ... ... if we get these outstanding schemes until sunday with a "fedora-blue"-background; you'll find them also at the German Linuxtag in Wiesbaden if we may use them :-) starting May, 3rd until May, 6th 2006 Cheers Gerold

Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote: I'm not with Red Hat or the Fedora Foundation, but I think this is a most excellent diagram! I like the color and I think the "Fedora Ambassadors" are in the correct place, as we are not directly and technically affecting the releases themselves. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, Technical Annoyance b.j.smith(a)ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Americans don't get upset because citizens in some foreign nations can burn the American flag -- Americans get upset because citizens in those same nations can't burn their own

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Nicu Buculei wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Project Yes, that particular article is not particularly useful, as opposed to say, wikipedia's "Fedora Core" article which at first glance actually seemed pretty good. I think it would be bad form (since you're not supposed to Wikipedia about yourself) for, say, me to give some love to wikipedia's Fedora pages, but if, I don't know, the community members who make up Fedora Marketing wanted to do some more work in there, that wouldn't be a bad thing. :-) That "Project Organization" chart is interesting. A bit confusing, and a bit Red Hat focused for my tastes. Fedora != Red Hat I'd rather see a description of some of the sub-projects that make up the larger Fedora Project (Core, Extras, Ambassadors, Docs, and so on) and how the Fedora Project Board handles all of that. Wikipedia should be used as a summary of *facts* since it is meant as a collection of facts, and as a way of pointing people to more facts on the fp wiki, not as a place where we have to replicate all of our wiki content. That just makes stuff get out of date. --Max -- Max Spevack + gpg key -- http://people.redhat.com/~mspevack/mspevack.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21