* on the Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 02:19:25PM +0200, Christoph Wickert was commenting:
Am Freitag, den 01.04.2011, 23:38 +0800 schrieb Harish Pillay:
>
> The PackageKit GUI (convenient screenshots
> here:
http://www.packagekit.org/pk-screenshots.html) does not have the
> same feel as a marketplace/appstore.
Why do you think so? I don't think there is much difference: There is
applications grouped by topic and a description. Compared to an appstore
it lacks screenshots but given the size of our repodata I doubt we
should add more stuff on top.
It is about perception. It is about branding.
> It does not speak to the non-techie user.
Frankly speaking I feel we have had a lot of problems recently because
we are are trying too hard to speak to non-techie issues.
I am not proposing solving all problems. I am specifically suggesting
that we consider making the addition/removal of applications friendlier.
> Consider:
>
> "Oh, you want an app that allows you to capture business card info?"
> "Ok, go to System->Administration->Add/Remove Software"
>
> conversation or would this:
>
> "Oh, you want an app that allows you to capture business card info?"
> "Ok, go to Fedora Mart and search for 'business card reader'"
>
> be better?
Sorry, this is not a fair comparison: You make PackageKit sound
extremely unsexy and Fedora Mart too easy. Why do you describe how to
find PackageKit but not Fedora Mart? Packagekit even has the more
descriptive name.
IMHO the correct analogy is:
"Ok, go to Add/Remove Software and search for 'business card reader'"
Not much difference, isn't it?
The only difference is the terminology, but markets and stores only make
sense if you have to *sell* something.
You are missing the point. it is NOT about *selling* anything per se.
It is riding on an awareness that "this is how you add/remove apps"
in a form that clicks with what has been done elsewhere.
My minor nit-picking about "PackageKit is that it does not sound to
a non-techie anything like a "tool to add/delete apps. Heck, in the
menu list, you do not even see PackageKit anywhere.
Nowhere am I suggesting changing any code or how yum/rpm works.
My suggestion comes from a recent interaction with a group of teachers
to whom I was showcasing Fedora. What they saw interested them
significantly.
When they played around with the desktop (it was on a Live CD), one
of them asked about how she could get apps into the system. I showed
her the System->Admin->Add/Remove steps and she remarked "isn't
there a marketplace?". I said this is the same as a marketplace,
but to her, it was too arcane. We are missing great opportunities
to ride on a growing meme to address end user perceptions by not
considering my proposal.
Harish