What Apple does for its OS is what Fedora should also do. Which is a collection of additional optional software that can do multimedia and enhance existing technologies. The "fedoraLife" Concept is several visuals accompanied by descriptions that will inspire many Fedora programmers to come up with programs that is missing in Fedora. What is missing in Fedora? Well, to begin with, there is no iPhoto-like software to view photos in a photo album-like setting. Another missing software is an iMovie-like application that edits video and audio from a digital source using OGG Theora or some other video codec. Another missing software is a Toast-like GUI that uses the already existing dvd/cd burning tools. And another missing software would combine Skype-like tools with a tool for Virtual Conventions/Meetings. This will be very useful in the future. This concept will make Fedora unique and more useful than all of the other Linux Distros available now. The "fedoraLife" suite won't be included in the Core installation, instead the suite or any of the components can be downloaded off the internet via Anaconda installer. Eventually, the "Everything" Spin will include the entire suite. Fedora has a bright future, don't squander it... The Concept PDF is available for downloading on my linux blog... Mark McLaughlin linuxglobe.wordpress.com Hudson, MA, USA -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Duvelle Jones wrote: > Second, in an odd way of thinking.... This has already happened, sort > of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the > distribution to build something that you here have coined 'fedoraLife'. > Now admiringly, the tools and applications found in Art Studio are not > all geared for ease-of-use like Ubuntu Studio or the iLife suite. Wait a minute. How is Ubuntu Studio geared for ease-of-use? ~m

It's all smoke and mirrors. I think what Markus is getting at is that we need to develop that perception of usability and user-friendliness in our marketing materials. Somehow Ubuntu has managed to do this without honestly doing much of actual utility in the distro itself. ~m

Duvelle Jones wrote: > That would be somewhat hard to do, with fedora anyway. Why would that be difficult to do if Ubuntu was able to do it? I don't understand. ~m

Ok, the first thing that I mention here is that fedora is a very different kind of monster than that of Mac OS X/10.x. That said, the fedora project doesn't need to completely go down the path that Apple Inc. has. As you said that in the document, Ubuntu seems to content to fill that hole. I think that it would be best left to them.

Second, in an odd way of thinking.... This has already happened, sort of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the distribution to build something that you here have coined 'fedoraLife'.

Now admiringly, the tools and applications found in Art Studio are not all geared for ease-of-use like Ubuntu Studio or the iLife suite. I will

also admit that Art Studio was announced a while ago, but has yet to produce a ISO. They need help, you might consider helping them since you are on a similar frame of thought.

Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora *(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and other members of the project), they just say : "Fedora is not for everyone cause we don't wanna be baby seeter of nuggets, or help then to play mp3 or install a proprietary driver etc". We need bring "Re-humanizer" the project if of course we want people that use ubuntu today.

Second, in an odd way of thinking.... This has already happened, sort of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the distribution to build something that you here have coined 'fedoraLife'. The Art Studio spin is currently on hold. Help needed. Well, i wanna help with it, i have a lot of experience with computer graphics made with free software , how i can help? is there a link to the sub project? can i bring more people to help?

Hi, i agree with you, i just said their words, we don't need add this things to the core, we need change the way that we use to deal with the common user =], they just don't know nothing about the real freedom of choice and most of then just don't wanna learn anything about it, but we still can take then showing our stuff whitout proprietary packages, cause the most important thing for this people is not software, but yes what it can do, if it can bring new and good computational experiences etc =] . I think that we already make it but only with the ambassadors, its time to the developers, artwork*(i am parte of this team inside my country) and marketing directly move their actions to this goal, fedora is not just a system of another free software to me, fedora is a way of life and i am very proud of it.

Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this?

Hi Máirín Duffy "I always make point you let them know the graphics were made with Inkscape, Gimp, and/or Scribus. " +1 To say a little on that free tools had been used to develop a promocional work, or same of spreading of Fedora Linux is really important. Recently the Project Fedora Brazil launch the second edition of the Magazine Fedora Brazil (http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista), in which we use softwares Gimp, Inkscape, Scribus and OpenOffice. In some workshops that we are carrying through in the Brazil, we are presenting the magazine and, beyond saying which softwares exempts had been used in its confection, also we teach to install, and to use these softwares in Fedora 8 and 9 (Sulphur). In third edition of the magazine, we go to start presenting the first used tool in the production of the magazine, the Inkscape. In the next, will be presented the other graphical tools. We understand that it is not only enough to create a site, one wiki, one spin, or exactly to only deliver in the hand of the user a copy of Fedora Linux and to say, good luck! It is important that any created thing to divulge Fedora mainly and what is possible to produce with it, comes with an attached important differential: education and learning. Voice and Practical. In this way, the final users, lose the fear to try Fedora Linux, and develop a curiosity for Fedora, uncontrollable. Becoming true hungry for Fedora. "If we can make high-quality things using Fedora then people will see what Fedora can really of." +1 If the FedoraArtStudio spin will be reanimated , we can promote it, still this year through some simultaneous events in the world. I and Razgriz am organizing scene that could well be used for this objective, that is the "FedoArt" event, here in the Brazil. If somebody to want more information can enter in contact with me. "And they will have solid proof, not just perception or an idea based on what someone else told them." +1 The people need to see to believe. To speak or only to hear is not enough. Is necessary to unite practical and voice and. ; -) Hugs Erick Goes ArtTeam - Magazine Fedora Brazil Project Fedora Brazil -- http://www.projetofedora.org http://www.mytoons.com/br4in *********************************************** DESIGN LIVRE *********************************************** <<Imagining, drawing and livening up>>

Hi, well...here in my country people know me cause i am a document writer *(yes, i make documents about computer graphics with free software since 2005 =]), then i proposed to Erick take our work and make an little event with this stuff, i think that it can work =]. About F-art studio i will subscripe in this list right now but, i am not a member of the international artwork team, is there any problems with it ?

Rahul Sundaram wrote: > RazGriz wrote: > >> >> About F-art studio i will subscripe in this list right now but, i am not >> a member of the international artwork team, is there any problems with it ? >> > > Nope. The list is open to everyone and everyone is welcome to contribute. > As Rahul said, the list is open to everyone. But aren't you interested in being a member of the team? He have a lot of open taks and could use some more contributors :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list