I agree!! It would be great to have video presentations about Fedora!! 2008/8/8 Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar(a)gmail.com&gt; > Hello guys, I am planning to give a presentation at my University, > presenting Fedora and except a "boring" slide presentation I want to use one > or some videos. I've searched at the wiki but I couldn't find a page with > Videos about Fedora. I mean, it would be great to have a page with all > videos about/from Fedora just like premade presentations. I am willing to > help tracking down as many videos I can and post them to the wiki. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar(a)fedoraproject.org > http://cmpahar.wordpress.com > GPG Key: CCFA0AEB > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Something like the *TRUTH HAPPENS* promo from Redhat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go25ri20fVM 2008/8/8 Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > 2008/8/8 Naresh KN <nareshlx(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > >> I agree!! It would be great to have video presentations about Fedora!! >> >> 2008/8/8 Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> Hello guys, I am planning to give a presentation at my University, >>> presenting Fedora and except a "boring" slide presentation I want to use one >>> or some videos. I've searched at the wiki but I couldn't find a page with >>> Videos about Fedora. I mean, it would be great to have a page with all >>> videos about/from Fedora just like premade presentations. I am willing to >>> help tracking down as many videos I can and post them to the wiki. >>> >>> -- >>> Christos Bacharakis >>> cmpahar(a)fedoraproject.org >>> http://cmpahar.wordpress.com >>> GPG Key: CCFA0AEB >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >>> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> > > Not only Video presentations but Fedora promoting videos too. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar(a)fedoraproject.org > http://cmpahar.wordpress.com > GPG Key: CCFA0AEB > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

I think you understand that Fedora being a community distro such a video should come from the community, namely from you, me and others like us.... So if you want such a video, start working to make it happen: maybe write a script, maybe shoot some footage with your camera, maybe do some editing with video software...

I agree. I foresee this to be a great way to promote Fedora to the mass. Lets give a heads up to this initiative. How do we kick start? Any thoughts?? -Naresh On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; > wrote: > > I think you understand that Fedora being a community distro such a video > > should come from the community, namely from you, me and others like > us.... > > So if you want such a video, start working to make it happen: maybe > write a > > script, maybe shoot some footage with your camera, maybe do some editing > > with video software... > > I think a 'truth happens' for Fedora coming out of the Red Hat side of > the fence would not be a bad thing as long as its done right. There > are video production experts over there, and they do have mad skillz. > As long as we are willing to accept that to make a video like that we > aren't going to be dog-fooding our our video tools. If this is > something 'we' want I'm sure there are ways of approaching the video > gurus inside the Red Hat fence line. > > If they were going to take on such a task at the behest of our > community marketing group, I would ideally like to see some sort of > partnership evolve such that community produced material was > incorporated but gave the video experts a lot of creative control on > how to use the material...including choice of digital tools to use. > But that's just me talking. > > And I should clarify since I know people lurk on this list, I have > said in the past that I don't want the Red Hat side of the fence > leading an effort to get a Fedora community video production process > up and running. I've said that primarily because I am afraid that the > quality of the work they typically do is orders of magnitude above > what we can do with in-distro tools and having them jump in early and > gifting us with very nice, well produced videos for us to use would > taint the discussion concerning our own toolset. Banging our > collective heads on creating screencasts and interviews using the > in-distro tools is an important part of a community push to move this > toolspace forward and I didn't want to see that short-circuited by > setting the bar on video quality for the community too high with a set > of initial video drop. But we have a process in place now, and it > could be time to think about how we deal with the need for high > production quality videos meant for re-use as marketing pieces that we > know we don't have the toolset to build in-distro...yet. > > -jef > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Hope you are doing good now Chris. Finding How-To videos and presentation shouldn't be a problem, but we should be more focusing on how do we get the promo videos made for Fedora. Coming with a creative concept, story board, script, finding the right tools and expertise to make it happen!! :) 2008/8/12 Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar(a)gmail.com&gt; > > 2008/8/10 Naresh KN <nareshlx(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > > I agree. I foresee this to be a great way to promote Fedora to the mass. >> Lets give a heads up to this initiative. How do we kick start? Any >> thoughts?? >> >> -Naresh >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > I think you understand that Fedora being a community distro such a >>> video >>> > should come from the community, namely from you, me and others like >>> us.... >>> > So if you want such a video, start working to make it happen: maybe >>> write a >>> > script, maybe shoot some footage with your camera, maybe do some >>> editing >>> > with video software... >>> >>> I think a 'truth happens' for Fedora coming out of the Red Hat side of >>> the fence would not be a bad thing as long as its done right. There >>> are video production experts over there, and they do have mad skillz. >>> As long as we are willing to accept that to make a video like that we >>> aren't going to be dog-fooding our our video tools. If this is >>> something 'we' want I'm sure there are ways of approaching the video >>> gurus inside the Red Hat fence line. >>> >>> If they were going to take on such a task at the behest of our >>> community marketing group, I would ideally like to see some sort of >>> partnership evolve such that community produced material was >>> incorporated but gave the video experts a lot of creative control on >>> how to use the material...including choice of digital tools to use. >>> But that's just me talking. >>> >>> And I should clarify since I know people lurk on this list, I have >>> said in the past that I don't want the Red Hat side of the fence >>> leading an effort to get a Fedora community video production process >>> up and running. I've said that primarily because I am afraid that the >>> quality of the work they typically do is orders of magnitude above >>> what we can do with in-distro tools and having them jump in early and >>> gifting us with very nice, well produced videos for us to use would >>> taint the discussion concerning our own toolset. Banging our >>> collective heads on creating screencasts and interviews using the >>> in-distro tools is an important part of a community push to move this >>> toolspace forward and I didn't want to see that short-circuited by >>> setting the bar on video quality for the community too high with a set >>> of initial video drop. But we have a process in place now, and it >>> could be time to think about how we deal with the need for high >>> production quality videos meant for re-use as marketing pieces that we >>> know we don't have the toolset to build in-distro...yet. >>> >>> -jef >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >>> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> > > Sorry for being late to answer, I had some health problems. I suggest to > try finding as many videos about fedora (promoting videos, presentation > videos, how-to videos) and post them at the wiki under the following address > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/videos . Although I don't know if we > have to host them in fedoraproject or we can simply post the link (for > example from youtube) to the wiki. Waiting for feedback. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar(a)fedoraproject.org > http://cmpahar.wordpress.com > GPG Key: CCFA0AEB > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Hope you are doing good now Chris. Finding How-To videos and presentation shouldn't be a problem, but we should be more focusing on how do we get the promo videos made for Fedora. Coming with a creative concept, story board, script, finding the right tools and expertise to make it happen!! :) 2008/8/12 Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar(a)gmail.com&gt; > > 2008/8/10 Naresh KN <nareshlx(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > > I agree. I foresee this to be a great way to promote Fedora to the mass. >> Lets give a heads up to this initiative. How do we kick start? Any >> thoughts?? >> >> -Naresh >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > I think you understand that Fedora being a community distro such a >>> video >>> > should come from the community, namely from you, me and others like >>> us.... >>> > So if you want such a video, start working to make it happen: maybe >>> write a >>> > script, maybe shoot some footage with your camera, maybe do some >>> editing >>> > with video software... >>> >>> I think a 'truth happens' for Fedora coming out of the Red Hat side of >>> the fence would not be a bad thing as long as its done right. There >>> are video production experts over there, and they do have mad skillz. >>> As long as we are willing to accept that to make a video like that we >>> aren't going to be dog-fooding our our video tools. If this is >>> something 'we' want I'm sure there are ways of approaching the video >>> gurus inside the Red Hat fence line. >>> >>> If they were going to take on such a task at the behest of our >>> community marketing group, I would ideally like to see some sort of >>> partnership evolve such that community produced material was >>> incorporated but gave the video experts a lot of creative control on >>> how to use the material...including choice of digital tools to use. >>> But that's just me talking. >>> >>> And I should clarify since I know people lurk on this list, I have >>> said in the past that I don't want the Red Hat side of the fence >>> leading an effort to get a Fedora community video production process >>> up and running. I've said that primarily because I am afraid that the >>> quality of the work they typically do is orders of magnitude above >>> what we can do with in-distro tools and having them jump in early and >>> gifting us with very nice, well produced videos for us to use would >>> taint the discussion concerning our own toolset. Banging our >>> collective heads on creating screencasts and interviews using the >>> in-distro tools is an important part of a community push to move this >>> toolspace forward and I didn't want to see that short-circuited by >>> setting the bar on video quality for the community too high with a set >>> of initial video drop. But we have a process in place now, and it >>> could be time to think about how we deal with the need for high >>> production quality videos meant for re-use as marketing pieces that we >>> know we don't have the toolset to build in-distro...yet. >>> >>> -jef >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >>> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >> Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> > > Sorry for being late to answer, I had some health problems. I suggest to > try finding as many videos about fedora (promoting videos, presentation > videos, how-to videos) and post them at the wiki under the following address > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/videos . Although I don't know if we > have to host them in fedoraproject or we can simply post the link (for > example from youtube) to the wiki. Waiting for feedback. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar(a)fedoraproject.org > http://cmpahar.wordpress.com > GPG Key: CCFA0AEB > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote: > I think you understand that Fedora being a community distro such a video > should come from the community, namely from you, me and others like us.... > So if you want such a video, start working to make it happen: maybe write a > script, maybe shoot some footage with your camera, maybe do some editing > with video software... > I think a 'truth happens' for Fedora coming out of the Red Hat side of the fence would not be a bad thing as long as its done right. There are video production experts over there, and they do have mad skillz. As long as we are willing to accept that to make a video like that we aren't going to be dog-fooding our our video tools. If this is something 'we' want I'm sure there are ways of approaching the video gurus inside the Red Hat fence line. If they were going to take on such a task at the behest of our community marketing group, I would ideally like to see some sort of partnership evolve such that community produced material was incorporated but gave the video experts a lot of creative control on how to use the material...including choice of digital tools to use. But that's just me talking. And I should clarify since I know people lurk on this list, I have said in the past that I don't want the Red Hat side of the fence leading an effort to get a Fedora community video production process up and running. I've said that primarily because I am afraid that the quality of the work they typically do is orders of magnitude above what we can do with in-distro tools and having them jump in early and gifting us with very nice, well produced videos for us to use would taint the discussion concerning our own toolset. Banging our collective heads on creating screencasts and interviews using the in-distro tools is an important part of a community push to move this toolspace forward and I didn't want to see that short-circuited by setting the bar on video quality for the community too high with a set of initial video drop. But we have a process in place now, and it could be time to think about how we deal with the need for high production quality videos meant for re-use as marketing pieces that we know we don't have the toolset to build in-distro...yet. -jef

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Colby Hoke <choke(a)redhat.com <mailto:choke@redhat.com>> wrote: I think it's something that will need to come from the community and I'm working at doing stuff using OSS - it's just not where I need it to be for my daily job. I wonder, is there an appropriate developer's conference situation where we could make a short presentation about what people like you need in video production for 'daily job' activities in a way that inspired someone to take up the challenge and create the application? The real trick is finding those few key people who know enough about what you need, and have enough coding experience to put a functional application on the map in the space with just enough initial features to build a community around it that can add more features over time. Can we as a project organize a posh, snack laden, hack session at a conference to do this? Would developer attendees participate? Am I smoking crack?

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: I wonder if there is a separate conference for FOSS video tools. That would be a very small conference

Is there a gstreamer specific conference? Because ultimately that's what we are talking about... building a gstreamer application that would compliment what pitivi is meant to be.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: LGM is pretty big, are you so sure it would be very small? I'm not even sure of my own existence. I would be very happy if there was a linux video tools conference and that its developer participants were not a small number. It would be a very interesting challenge to make the case to a large existing group for an editor application that met our technical and legal needs. I'd find a way to have Karsten, but wear my name tag and say everything I'd say..but friendly-like. -jef

Strangely enough while normally I'd suggest LGM [1] for this, it seems they don't really cover the FOSS video editing tools.

I wonder if there is a separate conference for FOSS video tools.

You can edit in Blender...i f you're a masochist... ;) It's like saying that people can edit with AfterEffects, Motion, or Flame.