2010-06-07 - Fedora QA meeting recap

As always, notes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100607 = Attendees = People present (lines said): * jlaska (114) * adamw (77) * wwoods (69) * skvidal (34) * zodbot (5) * nirik (4) * Viking-Ice (3) * Oxf13 (2) Regrets: * liam * rhe * kparal * jskladan * maxamillion = Agenda = * Proposed meeting agenda - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-June/091438.html * MeetBot summary - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-07/fedora-qa.2010... == Previous meeting follow-up == * jlaska + adamw - clear out CommonBugs? requests * {{bz|541645}} - PackageKit - System Update fails with PackageKit GUI ("Error getting ... * Removed from CommonBugs * {{bz|552423}} - gnome-panel - [abrt] crash in gnome-panel (/usr/libexec/wnck-applet @ w... * jlaska to check with halfline for details == Fedora 13 QA Retrospective == * Owner - jlaska * Summary * Feedback on QA execution of Fedora 13 testing is available at [[Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective]]. This document is intended to serve as a roadmap for Fedora 14 QA planning. * Next steps... * Jlaska planning to organize [[Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective]] feedback and present initial draft of recommendations next week. == Proventester status == * Owner - Maxamillion * Summary * Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page ([[QA/JoinProvenTesters]]) is no longer a draft. We have several TRAC requests to join the ''proventesters'' group. [[User:Adamwill]] asked whether we can start processing ''proventesters'' requests. What's next, and who is needed to take it there? * Next steps... 1. adamw will propose a document 'What do proventesters test for'? 2. jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 3. jlaska to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join to include link to proventester page 4. Someone needed to check with bodhi team on plans for requiring 'proventester' karma feedback for critpath packages for F-13-updates. == AutoQA initscripts test validation == * Owner - Jskladan * Summary * Josef asked for help in validating a new round of SysVinitscript AutoQA tests. * See http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-May/091311.html and https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/wiki/initscripts and http://jlaska.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/autoqa-help-wanted-initscript-veri... * Next steps... * Unclear, will check-in with Josef. == AutoQA prioritization == * Owner - jlaska * Summary * The immediate goal is to automate the [[QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan]]. Kparal asked, what is the most efficient way to prioritize and balance outstanding tasks to accomplish this goal? * The current open milestones tracking progress toward this goal include: * Package Sanity Tests - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20Sanity%20Tests * Package Update Tests - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20update%20tests * Initscripts Review - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Initscripts%20review * Results database - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Resultdb * DepCheck - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa %20depcheck * Next steps... * Jlaska and wwoods felt that depcheck was the highest priority of the listed tasks * Need to discuss with kparal and jskladan for further input = Open discussion - <Your topic here> = == What's in autoqa-0.3.5-1? == * Owner - wwoods * Summary * With several patches now in ''master'', Wwoods asked if there were any other changes planned for the next version of autoqa (autoqa-0.3.5-1)? * Next steps... * wwoods would like to get ''post-bodhi-update'' watch into autoqa-0.3.5-1 * Enable an existing test to run for ''post-bodhi-update'' watcher (rpmlint or rpmguard) == Future of rpmlint == * Owner - skvidal and kparal * Summary * Seth and Kamil have been discussing how to improve rpm static and comparative tests in the future. The general idea is to provide a test framework such that it is easy to document how to add new tests. * General discussion available at https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000616.html * Next steps... * Time permitting, Seth will propose a draft framework for review to autoqa-devel == NSS Dependency Issue == * Owner - Adamwill * Summary * Mether asked adamw to raise this topic for quick discussion to determine if there is any corrective action for QA. * Next steps... 1. Adamw sending wwoods a simple summary of the test scenario 2. Wwoods will determine if the existing depcheck test would have detected this failure case == AutoQA handling of branched and rawhide == * Owner - wwoods * Summary * Wwoods discussed recent autoqa changes and how they impact testing of rawhide and branched. * Next steps... 1. At branch point in release, someone will need to add entries to repoinfo.conf when the branched repos appear 2. jlaska took an action item to document the changes and add a link to the existing SOP for branching the release = Upcoming QA events = * 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1 * 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2 * 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 * 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1 * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2 = Action items = 1. jlaska will discuss CommonBugs entry for 552423 with halfline 2. adamw will propose a document 'What do proventesters test for'? 3. jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 4. Someone needs to check with bodhi on when 'proventester' karma is required for critpath packages 5. jlaska to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join to include link to proventester page 6. adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future 7. jlaska to add autoqa FIXME links for a wiki page describing how to update repoinfo.conf when branched release is available, linked from the existing branched SOP pages