Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)redhat.com> on 01/23/2006 10:27 AM added:
>>
>> Please explain what is good about the everything installation option.
>> Dont throw around vague notions.
>>
>>
> It saves me time when selecting packages to install.
Which ones?
All of them. Thats the whole point.
> It saves me time to not have to install packages individually.
What are you using your system for?. Is it a
desktop/workstation/server/development system?. Doesnt it fit into one
of these profiles?
Correct, It doesn't fit. My usage profile (like many others on this
list) is a superset of those categories.
I've found that none of the existing profiles suits my needs.
They each have something missing. My laptop is:
- a desktop,
- a workstation,
- a server
- a development system.
Because I use the 'desktop' of my 'workstation' to 'develop'
'server'
applications.
Actually, given your attitude against the 'all' profile,
you can't really justify having a 'workstation', or server', or
any other arbitrary profile either. Given your rationalization,
they whould all be removed too!
> I don't have to download packages (via yum or whatever) that
have
> already been downloaded in the isos.
You cant work with them using the current tools provided anyway.
The point is, as has been mentioned a million time already in this thread,
Its a great inconvienience to have to push every button manually.
Especially in light of the fact that this feature:
_used_ to exist,
_was_ being used by a lot of people.
and has been _removed_.
Its not as if we are asking for a 'new' feature,
we just want our 'old' feature back.
Thats
what we are trying to fix already. If you dont use yum to keep yourself
updated installing everything is dangareous since it brings in potential
security issues with packages you wouldnt even use.
Yup, and I/we are willing to risk that, and deal with the issues.
> I don't need a kickstart file.
> I don't need to waste space on disk with rpms when I already have the
> package installed from the initial installation.
You waste disk space by installing packages you wouldnt use. You will to
keep packages updated. Performance would do down with deamons and other
session programs. You would be installing tons of world languages which
you wouldnt be using and so on.
Yup. wasting disk space is _our_ choice, not yours. You select the
packages you want to install, and we get to select the packages _we_ want
to
install.
Performance issues... yup. we will live with it.
world languages... yup, we will live with it.
The bottom line, is its _our_ choice as the installers, not yours.
While I've been reading this thread, there seems to be a whole lot
of people who are addemant about having this bug (where the everything
option
appears to now be missing) fixed.
You have received a lot of feedback and justification for having it
re-instated,
but you seem to be reluctant to accept the fact that:
"PEOPLE WANT IT BACK".
It seems to me that there are more people, with more justifications that
want
it back, than you and your rationalizations.
(Please note that I _am_ trying to be civil about this.)