On 12/01/2009 11:16 AM, John Poelstra wrote:
Jesse Keating said the following on 11/29/2009 10:52 PM Pacific
Time:
> On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 15:30 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>> Is it time for the images directory to reappear?
>> In the past many problems with updated rawhides
>> have been solved by doing a fresh install from
>> boot.iso or pxeboot.
>>
>
> From now on, Rawhide will not have install images. Rawhide is a never
> stopping never freezing repository of packages. To get to rawhide
> you'll need to start with say F12 and either point to the rawhide repo
> during install, or yum update to it post install.
>
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_Frozen_Rawhide_Proposal
>
>
The part about not making install images all the time is listed as a
"discussion point", part of the official proposal:
'Do we always make install images for rawhide, or only make images for
pending release tree?'
Big picture it seems like we've suddenly taken away access to a huge
amount of potential nightly and periodic installer testing. Is this
addressed somewhere in the proposal that I missed?
I'm not sure how you figure we've taken away access - we've made it so
an individual tester, working alone, has to do a compose themself, which
is admittedly a higher barrier to entry. But the side effect is that
people aren't testing trees we don't expect to work, and we've done that
without adding a serious communication overhead ("hey guys, will the
tree work today?")
Are there particular reason for not creating the images any more
that
might help everyone understand more why this is a good idea?
Usually it's a waste of time and energy, especially early in the rawhide
cycle where we (the the anaconda team) are doing heavy development.
Can you add something to the proposal explaining when, how often,
and
where install images will be created?
Maybe we ought to have sortof a fire-drill test day sometime soon where
we spin an anaconda we think will work and do some smoke-test composes and
installs, and then do a compose for the test day just to get in the habit
of the new process.
--
Peter
Old MacDonald had an agricultural real-estate tax abatement.