I was just playing with my new keyboard, and I noticed a strange difference between fedora 10 and fedora 11:
On fedora 10, the mute and volume keys seem to briefly pop up a little volume control to reflect the status. (As far as I know, I did nothing to configure this to happen and I actually wish it wouldn't :-).
On fedora 11, the same keys do nothing.
Anyone know what is going on here (and who is arranging to hook up those volume keys to something)? Some strange hal connection maybe?
Most of the other extra buttons (with labels like mail and search and wot-not) show up in xev as keycodes with no associated keysyms.
Thankfully, the Power and Sleep buttons don't seem to be attached to anything :-).
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 21:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
I was just playing with my new keyboard, and I noticed a strange difference between fedora 10 and fedora 11:
On fedora 10, the mute and volume keys seem to briefly pop up a little volume control to reflect the status. (As far as I know, I did nothing to configure this to happen and I actually wish it wouldn't :-).
On fedora 11, the same keys do nothing.
Anyone know what is going on here (and who is arranging to hook up those volume keys to something)? Some strange hal connection maybe?
Most of the other extra buttons (with labels like mail and search and wot-not) show up in xev as keycodes with no associated keysyms.
Thankfully, the Power and Sleep buttons don't seem to be attached to anything :-).
Thinkpad?
Could be related to this, I guess:
http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary.html?start=205
On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:16 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote:
Thinkpad?
I don't think so. I finally tracked down the f10 behavior to key bindings in gnome-settings-daemon (which I turned off once I found em :-), but there seems to be something weirdly random with the keymap settings. In f10 some of the keys showed up in xev with keysyms (like XF86AudioMute), others were just plain keycodes with no associated keysym, and not only do a different set of keys have keysyms in f11, but the same keyboard in a different f10 box also shows different keysyms.
Is the keymap something that is remembered permanently from install time or something? (Because all of these systems probably had different keyboards when they were installed).
Anyway, I provided /etc/X11/Xmodmap entries for all the keycodes and they all show up with the appropriate keysym now.
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:16 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote:
Thinkpad?
I don't think so. I finally tracked down the f10 behavior to key bindings in gnome-settings-daemon (which I turned off once I found em :-), but there seems to be something weirdly random with the keymap settings. In f10 some of the keys showed up in xev with keysyms (like XF86AudioMute), others were just plain keycodes with no associated keysym, and not only do a different set of keys have keysyms in f11, but the same keyboard in a different f10 box also shows different keysyms.
Is the keymap something that is remembered permanently from install time or something? (Because all of these systems probably had different keyboards when they were installed).
AFAIK it shouldn't be, no, it gets auto-detected...HAL has quirks for some laptop keyboards, otherwise it's in some other component, I forget which.
AIUI all 'multimedia' keys should pass the appropriate XF86* keysym when pushed, if not, it's a bug you should file on something. See above. :)
On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:29:53 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote:
AFAIK it shouldn't be, no, it gets auto-detected...HAL has quirks for some laptop keyboards, otherwise it's in some other component, I forget which.
It is definitely getting confusing. I notice that "lsusb" doesn't even show the keyboard (at least on one of the systems), so it is possible the bios may be pretending it is a PS/2 keyboard.
Another system has a keyboard definition in the xorg.conf file which says it was generated by rhpxl, so that one may indeed have xorg overriding any autodetected keyboard.
Its too confusing to even decide if there is a bug :-).
On a side note I'm very happy with F11 media keys support. For instance I never managed to assign "Think Vantage/ Access IBM" button to a shortcut. I was very surprised when in F11 I could do that.