design-team July 2010

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GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora?
by Valent Turkovic 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in Rawhide repost for testing purposes? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today!
by Máirín Duffy 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hi folks! This is a reminder that our weekly IRC meeting is at 19:00 UTC today (July 27) in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net. On the agenda: - F14 artwork: - today is the deadline for the alpha. Which wallpaper mockup should we have checked in? - how is the feedback gathering going? Any feedback from Fedora Forum? - Fedora branding fonts: - Luya will be packaging Comfortaa - When we get Comfortaa packaged we should change the usage guidelines - Ian will talk about potentially using Comfortaa in the FUDcon logo - Other fonts - any more feedback on Cantarell or Droid Sans? - New Design team join page (by Michael Beckwith) - Emily made some changes, how do folks like them? - Any other feedback? - When should we copy it over to the main page? - Fedora website redesign - Content review status (Jef) - Tutorial list (Ian McG) - Pending mockup changes from last week: - move the greyscale features to the features page - use the four f's instead of the grey feature icons on the front page - Other UX projects - Live USB Creator UI https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/146 - Installer UI https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/147 - add a community feature to the slideshow front & center - add a section 'what makes fedora different' for current linux users of other distros - maybe the summary slide #1, community slide #2, then 2 or 3 more slides to show the best new features in the current release - Robyn's design team marketing plan Has our first interview been completed yet? - Open floor We'll try to keep the meeting to an hour. If you'd like to add items to this agenda, just reply to the email. Below is a time conversion listing for folks who participated in the meeting time selection process: Luya: 12 PM Tatica: 3 PM Martha: 3 PM Máirín: 3 PM Onyeibo: 8 PM fabsh: 9 PM wonderer: 9 PM Martin: 9 PM Nicu: 10 PM Pierros: 10 PM ~m

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summary of my meeting with Pam Chestek yesterday
by Ian Weller 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Yesterday I met with Pam Chestek, Red Hat's Senior IP Attorney, about some of the requested and proposed changes to Fedora's trademarks. Here's a summary of our conversation; Pam promised she'd respond with the legal bases and answer any questions you guys might have. Part of the meeting was attempting to understand, just for my own personal knowledge, how the heck trademark law affects how we use and distribute our logo. If you guys have any questions on this, feel free to ask and Pam will answer. I may have messed up on a few things below, so IANAL, Pam will correct me, etc. :) == The Fedora logo == One of the things I've been spending time on is changing all the little "TM" symbols to our new font, Comfortaa. It was formerly written in Interstate, which is a commercial font, so we wanted to change that. From both a brand and legal perspective, both Pam and I agreed that changing the font for "Fedora" in the logo would not be a good idea, because it is far more likely to confuse someone who sees the Fedora logo than impress them that we now use a free font. == The Fedora Remix logo (secondary trademark) == Because the requirements for the logo permitted more than just a few different colors, it was deemed OK to consolidate the usable color palette into the Foundations colors. The same from above applies to changing fonts to Comfortaa in the Remix logo. == The Foundations artwork == Since the core part of the foundations artwork is not the text, but instead the symbol within the bubble, it is OK to change the font for the foundation names ("Freedom", "Friends", "Features", "First") to Comfortaa. That's up to you guys to decide if we want to do that or not (I'm for it). == The FUDCon logo == Similarly to the Fedora logo, Pam strongly advised not changing the font of the FUDCon wordmark. However, she did state that she was fine with the text for the location of where the FUDCon is held may be changed to Comfortaa. We guys need to decide if we want to change the font for the location in the FUDCon logo. I'm for it. == On trademarks in general == As Pam mentioned during the meeting Tuesday, there are only registered trademarks and unregistered trademarks. If we create a logo that uniquely represents Fedora, it's still a trademark of Fedora (and therefore Red Hat), and we need to do the best we can to protect the usage of that logo. Since we are a free software community, we need to walk the fine line between protecting usage of the trademarks and allowing usage of the trademarks as much as we can without tarnishing our brand. We will write up some basic usage guidelines for the Foundations artwork and the FUDCon logo, and place them on the brand guidelines page for our team, the Board, and Red Hat Legal to approve. It is the eventual goal to make sure that those get moved into the overall trademark guidelines. == Logo distribution == All SVG files containing the Fedora wordmark or the Infinity design logo will continue to be distributed by request by emailing logo(a)fedoraproject.org. The remaining logos (at this point Foundations and FUDCon) will be distributed through a tarball that may be downloaded via HTTP from somewhere on fedoraproject.org. Although these logos are still Fedora trademarks, Legal is not worried about rampant misuse of these logos, but we will still be sure to enforce the proper use of our trademarks. -- Ian Weller <ian(a)ianweller.org> Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Start End Name Wed 26-May Thu 19-Aug Supplemental Wallpaper Submission Period Wed 26-May Tue 07-Sep Supplemental Wallpaper Process Tue 06-Jul Tue 27-Jul Wallpaper Design for Alpha Tue 27-Jul Fri 30-Jul Finalize Alpha Wallpaper Fri 30-Jul Fri 30-Jul Alpha Wallpaper Deadline Fri 30-Jul Fri 30-Jul Blog About Alpha Wallpaper Fri 30-Jul Tue 03-Aug Package Alpha Wallpaper Tue 03-Aug Tue 17-Aug Solicit Feedback on Alpha Wallpaper Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule? Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the future? Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the important details as they happen: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective

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Font comparison
by Emily Dirsh 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

Hi all, I started making up the type samples for font comparison, but I kept thinking that something interactive would be more useful, so I made this instead. Everyone go and try it out so we can pick a font already. :) Here's the full url: http://www.fightingcrane.com/emily/fedora/fontfight/ Let me know if there are any bugs! Emily

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Combined FAD
by wonderer 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

hello there, I am thinking for quite some time about a "combined" Design-Team and Marketing-Team FAD of some kind. If I look around on the ML and also on IRC there are much overlapping ideas, Talking points, goals, etc. so I think it would be a good time after we grow good Teams to meet all together to discuss some main points which concerns both Teams. * Main Points (so far I can think of) -- Design Templates: Design Presentation and other Templates to have some base also for Marketing (e.g. Design Template for the Talking Points, Press Kit, Presentation Template, poster, etc. -> same Theme) -- User Research: how do the users "feel" with the Presentations, CD/DVD Covers, posters, Banners, Marketing Material, etc. and also how good can Ambassadors and others work with those materials? Do we need more / others? -- Other Design Base Templates which should be adapted (e.g. a new event or spin leads to a new bannerdesign leads to a new posterdesign leads to changes if the Release is changing ...) -- What does Marketing and PR need from Design - what does Design need from Marketing -- didn't we have the idea of a photobook some time ago... * other thoughts -- produce some base Templates and maybe workflow (e.g. if $event is happening then $trigger > do Texta, Textb, Bannera, poster > timeline > workflow > end) in ageneric way to addapt on a wide range of new projects that can came up (new release, new spin, new SIG, new event, etc.) ... because the work that have to be done is almost the same... -- maybe work on longtime or pending tasks (e.g. Design Guide, etc.) That also leads maybe to other Combined FADS .... but maybe more later or not :-) mit freundlichen grüßen / best regards H. Heigl - wonderer(a)fedoraproject.org

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Re: [Design-team] Font comparison
by Emily Dirsh 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

haha! yes.. that was supposed to go to the design-team, I just hit reply, and didn't even check the address. oops! :P On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:12 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 17:51 -0400, Emily Dirsh wrote: > > Maybe it wasn't clear :P Actually, I meant that according to > > wikipedia, droid sans has CJK support - but I haven't seen that > > myself, so I'm not sure how accurate that is... > > > > >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_%28font%29: > > > > The Droid Sans typeface consists of Regular and Bold fonts. > > Droid Sans regular font includes support for Simplified and > > Traditional Chinese, Japanese and Korean support for the > > GB2312, Big 5, JIS 0208 and KSC 5601 character sets > > respectively. > > > Um, this message was probably supposed to go to the design-team list, > right? It's probably my fault as I hit "reply all" with my previous mail > and didn't checked that you're in CC... Sorry about that. > > Martin

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Comfortaa fonts package submitted
by Luya Tshimbalanga 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Comfortaa packages is now submitted for review [1]. Be in mind that will be my first attempt to package fonts and there might be some mistake to fix. Ref - ---- [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619518 - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMUceoAAoJEGZ+gIukWeEebrQH/jYPDot+/oSMD6d8zVy8QVYL Q69yI1vk3W3FeDvZc5WKLeqO2/O5rJDNCYzR5/+mdVPCz+6IVJ0lAjVmi9q9Xvz3 abUAzqvAsmHQXGDHrKd0Tla1uq4Ln0mH4mjJjJ2aa97Lh+HtbTtyjdW2qm4Q4Zfa p2SWxv/Qx9EhygjCL5pGhOR7/iKdgzHcWPncEVwQM0jyCsQjqUc8VHrl7MsuXUm0 pb3xi+8r3dbMuu9/9Esg88OGDE5GQK4zPJFIB0pfhMeJue5SuFoUinZu0Dq+wgsJ LhpGEZXXQoK1/a0Nr5QR8wo+BiI7mpP5myr7zVf5znJFA/IUt3K2g2C/EfrtlRg= =EFSD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Alpha wallpaper Blog
by Kyle Baker 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Hey Team, I made a blog posting about the alpha wallpaper hoping to get feedback from the community. Please spread it around so we are able to not only get as much feedback as possible but, maybe get a few new community members as well. http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/kybaker/2010/07/28/fedora-14-alpha-wallpa… It is on planet as well http://planet.fedoraproject.org/.

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Willem de Kooning academy design program: interested in working with Fedora
by Mel Chua 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Logs that people may find interesting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-07-23/oscon_talk_on_edu… They're from an OSCON talk about a program at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_de_Kooning_Academy and how it's using FOSS (both the tools/tech and the open source way of doing things) as a requirement for its Masters students . http://pzwart.wdka.nl/networked-media/category/study-programme/description-… "We offer a Master programme focused on a critical engagement with the culture of the Internet and computer media, their artistic design, technology and theory. It is a small course with a highly international community of students and teachers, and a strong emphasis on personal contact and collaboration... Free and Open Source Software and do-it-yourself ethic play a key role in the programme. Aside from its obvious benefit of giving you... toolchains at zero cost, Open Source software tends to be extremely modular, open to DIY and custom applications. It gives value to seemingly outmoded hardware, and provides you with building blocks for your own projects rather than solutions that strongly preformat the function and aesthetics of your work." They're very interested in talking more with the Fedora Design Team - one possible framing is "do the tools, techniques, and etc. we're experimenting with in our (physical) school transfer to distributed online communities as well?" but mizmo may have other angles, as she talked with them on IRC for a bit (as did tatica and ianweller). They're very interested in tools and processes for collaborative design, more than they are interested in direct replacements for existing design software (so design hub, http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/design-hub-update/, is more interesting to them than "GIMP is like Free Photoshop! and so forth). Immediate things for discussion at the meeting: * Can we try out PickPic for them and let them know if it's a useful tool (and if so, would Fedora folks be interested in helping with coding/deployment, as this is a prototype written by artists who aren't devleopers?) http://django.parcodiyellowstone.it/accounts/login/?redirect_to=/pickpic/se… * Is anyone from Fedora Design interested in going to http://makeart.goto10.org/call/ to meet up with them and figure out how to start collaborating? (Poitiers, France, 4-7 November) * Can someone reach out to these folks and see if any of their students would like to do/deploy their projects within Fedora - contribute to the Design Team as part of their coursework, or otherwise? * Can someone reach out to them and get them to review the Design Suite Spin? That's off the top of my head, for meeting discussion today. Cheers, --Mel

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