Good stuff.
Could we manage to get a Plymouth themes area ? :)
nelson
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:03 +0300, Tareq Al Jurf wrote:
Hi Nelson
I think that you should see this
fedora-art.org
I sent
opendesktop.org an email, and they've done it.
Regards
On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <07721(a)ipam.pt> wrote:
Hi all,
I thought over in many things and I do recognize some
problems that
might be related to people not enrolling with communities like
our. I
would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a
decent
document, I'd rather take this approach first).
Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be
committed
to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the
upcoming
months after the release there's too much to do still. So
maybe the best
time is to trigger this around July. At that time people
should be
preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which
is probably
the main audience for this).
I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and
specially by
whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right
after such is
accomplished.
What I would like to do:
Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a
cooperation
protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick
examples:
*
opendesktop.org (
gnome-look.org,
kde-look.org, etc);
*
deviantart.com
*
gnome.org and
kde.org (?? this people are most likely
buried with
work already)
* suggestions from current artists
This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign
in which
artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As
things are
not going to be much random, this is what I though that is
going to be
needed:
#1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior.
#2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to
comply
(this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as
it's their
field of action/expertise).
#3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this
shouldnt be too
complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this).
#4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure
something I have
no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here
who have
done similiar things in the past, so selecting and
highlighting such
would be great).
#5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run
this as
Fedora or eventually also invite people from other
communities, such as
GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by
Fedora and
distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone
from their
project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds
between us
and them.
#6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We
should be
able to reach everyone.
#7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta
Themes, KDE
themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?).
#8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that
_current_
artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As
artists they
might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure
talk the
same language as other artists and know how to attract people
in a more
effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard
non-artist
Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running
such project
is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at).
Some doubts:
- If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or
not
community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some
extra stuff
that we get from such a campaign ?
- The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll
through
Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed
with a
friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly
software, such
as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff.
Should we
apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss
in the
submitted artwork?
- I would like submitters to place their artwork in place
where FAS
registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their
work, they
will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is
done, with a
single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling
list, their
approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done.
This could
be explored.
- Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork
will be for
sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can
probably
forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list
such as
design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them
directly in
contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This
should
probably make their possible integration in the future much
easier, as
they will start having friendly voices around.
- Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24
million
computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass
distribution
channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for
them to
participate (if we are friendly with rules).
- Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face
this, but
this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does
require some
work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I
can nag
my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my
free
time.
- Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done,
so some
feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can
see how we
can help each other. Even between the involved
departments/teams of
Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should
be a must.
- Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for
everyone
involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such
initiative... Fedora
Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for
their
work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number
and gather
more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams.
That should
be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or
artwork on the
release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way.
Break the Ice
between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side...
This is
will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors,
Marketing,
Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA,
packaging, etc. I
would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already
a great
win and would reward us all.
For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if
there is
interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more
in-depth
document and more objective.
I believe we can try to do something different here and try
to enlarge
our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community
contributions.
All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify
them and work
them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora
14 theme
selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast
and
aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected.
I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their
own ideas
on how to make better, their concerns, their critics...
everything...
only in possession of such information we can have a strong
basis to
work out soemthing like this.
From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week
for such
project and report to Marketing every single week about what
has been
achieved.
Nelson.
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