Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ post...

Sorry to turn this into a suggestion fest... I've noticed a few Fedora folks blogging on Wayland and GNOME 3 in the upcoming Fedora 21... and although it isn't default... until at least F22 or F23... that people are going to want to be able to give it a try. How about an article on the steps required to get GNOME 3 running under Wayland... and what shortcomings to expect. I would assume anyone who has blogged about it recently could throw that together quickly? (http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2014/10/02/fedora-workstation-progress-repo...) ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:23:11PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ > > post... > > That would be great — it's a conversation Fedora needs to have. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > Fedora Project Leader > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Hi, I've tested GNOME on Wayland extensively in the last couple of days and I don't have any plans for 2nite, so hey let's do it :) Jiri Scott Dowdle píše v Út 07. 10. 2014 v 13:38 -0600: > Sorry to turn this into a suggestion fest... I've noticed a few Fedora folks blogging on Wayland and GNOME 3 in the upcoming Fedora 21... and although it isn't default... until at least F22 or F23... that people are going to want to be able to give it a try. How about an article on the steps required to get GNOME 3 running under Wayland... and what shortcomings to expect. I would assume anyone who has blogged about it recently could throw that together quickly? (http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2014/10/02/fedora-workstation-progress-repo...) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:23:11PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ > > > post... > > > > That would be great — it's a conversation Fedora needs to have. > > > > -- > > Matthew Miller > > <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > > Fedora Project Leader > > -- > > marketing mailing list > > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

On 10/09/2014 06:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > I've finished the article. It's saved as a draft. Can someone please > proof read it and publish it? It shows you still in the post. I'm getting some coffee, but if you exit the post soon I'll try to edit + post it.

Joe Brockmeier píše v Čt 09. 10. 2014 v 06:47 -0500: > On 10/09/2014 06:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: >> I've finished the article. It's saved as a draft. Can someone please >> proof read it and publish it? > It shows you still in the post. I'm getting some coffee, but if you exit > the post soon I'll try to edit + post it. Sorry, I left it open in one of the tabs. I should be out now. Jiri

On 10/09/2014 08:00 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > Joe Brockmeier píše v Čt 09. 10. 2014 v 06:47 -0500: >> On 10/09/2014 06:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: >>> I've finished the article. It's saved as a draft. Can someone please >>> proof read it and publish it? >> It shows you still in the post. I'm getting some coffee, but if you exit >> the post soon I'll try to edit + post it. > Sorry, > I left it open in one of the tabs. I should be out now. > > Jiri > The article is going great! so far today nearly 4000 pageviews, thanks to appearing on /r/linux, LWN, and phoronix. awesome work Jiri!

On 10/07/2014 02:23 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ post... I'm +1 to this, but also want to call out that this sounds like it'd be an opinion topic and we haven't gone down that path before. Any thoughts on that? Do we have any policy, or should we have, on putting up something that's sort of outside the standard howto/news in Fedora model? (Not trying to apply stop energy here, just wanting to call out what may be setting precedent and see if there's any extra concerns around it.)

I definitely want to try to take as objective a view as possible and ask a lot more questions to get folks thinking rather than anything else.

On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:29:02AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > My main question was more around opening the door to a Fedora > publication to opinion pieces, and what might that lead to down the road. > > * Do we accept any opinion pieces? > > * Is there a process to saying "uh, sorry - we don't think this meets > our standards?" I think this needs to be more of an editorial space than a letters-to-the-editor section. I think anything we run needs to: 1) Aim to advance our overall mission, 2) be in line with and promote the Fedora foundations, and 3) obviously, but let's say it: follow the Fedora code of conduct. I don't know if we need more process than just saying that and trusting our submitters and editors; I hope we don't.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:03:29PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I've no qualms about having this kind of opinion piece. I did want to > say that I think Fedora Magazine on the whole should retain a > user-centric slant, and not get too focused on internal community > issues. Hmmm. I agree, but... we also need a central focus for running things that are about internal community issues. I am working on some stuff about project objectives (as part of the new fedora council), and I can do it as mailing list posts but I'd really like it to be more... blog posty, with discussion to follow. I can set up my own personal FPL blog, but... I'm historically terrible at that whereas it turns out to be easier for me to be _part_ of something, if that makes sense. And, it would kind of be nice to have a central place for things which _are_ more internal. The Fedora Council seems like a good example — a general overview makes a good user-focused article, but details beyond that are probably more interesting to contributors, and the elections articles (like the interviews we were talking about) are _meant_ for contributors. I know Ryan was talking about wanting to reduce the number of categories. What if we made it just two, for user-focused and contributor-focused articles? Maybe keeping 5tFTW as a separate thing which covers both — or, possibly splitting that into two separate posts, one for each category (and probably removing the "5" from both, because speaking from experience 10 total would be crazy).

> I like this idea. Let me see if I understand it: If you hit the site > blindly (http://fm.o) you'd see the general user feed (e.g. "For > Users"). There'd be some way to choose "For Contributors" and you > could see that stuff too. Is that accurate? Yep. See right now where we have Fedora News | Fedora This Week | Events | Fedora Badges | Videos We would instead have Fedora User Stuff | Fedora Contributor Stuff | Fedora This Week

+1 to this, I think For Users and For Contributors will make navigation a lot simpler. I know Fedora Videos likes having the video section up there. Are we able to keep that section as well?

+1 to this, I think For Users and For Contributors will make navigation a lot simpler.

Hmmm, not sure about these -- they are categories of audience, rather than of content. Not sure we want to make the divide of intended audience front and centre like that. Maybe we can have: * Workstation * Cloud * Server * Community * This Week I think those will cover most of the possible content we will generate. also, are we intending for posts to be in just one of these categories? or 1 to many of these categories? --ryanlerch

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:38:38AM +0300, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: > >* Workstation > >* Cloud > >* Server > >* Community > >* This Week > >I think those will cover most of the possible content we will generate. > >also, are we intending for posts to be in just one of these > >categories? or 1 to many of these categories? I was thinking just one. With your scheme, I think there would be a lot of "fits in several buckets". Not necessarily bad.... I was also thinking that we'd make "For Users" the front page; with your idea, maybe it'd fit more to have the front just show one big featured article every few days (full article), plus prominent (graphical) links to the other categories (maybe with the latest articles in those down a sidebar?) I dunno, you're the designer. :)

The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :)

On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:10:17AM +0200, Joerg Simon wrote: > ... maybe the Ambassador > Event Reports can add some noise to the magazine. Along with a bit > post-editing by the magazine folks, this may contribute to more content? > It does not need to be a huge process - just a place where Ambassadors > can send an heads up about the Reports that they produce anyway. Yes, this sounds _perfect_. In fact, I'd love to make this the default for event reports.

On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:17:17PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) We have this now too: http://fedoramagazine.org/netflix-streaming-comes-to-chrome-for-fedora/ Maybe Rikki or someone with access to Fedora's Facebook and Twitter could echo this out? Seems to be ramping up in general Linux news today. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing