On Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 23:10, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: That's a real mess. I'm generally in favour, but ... [...] 1. any package that makes use of fonts in a modern format like OpenType TT (TTF) or OpenType CFF (OTF) MUST have them packaged separately [...] ... what about fonts in other formats which happen to be included in a given package? I don't have any specific examples, just asking. Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann Livna http://rpm.livna.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations"

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:36:40PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I don't think this may happen in a while because some very interesting apps (though not mainstream desktop apps, fortunately) uses type1 fonts, mostly using t1lib, like xfig, xdvi, grace. But in general they don't use directly the t1lib way to find fonts, only to render them but most of the time either use a specific way (like grace) or the tex kpathsea way (if I recall well it is what xdvi does). It is quite painfull for packaging not to have something normalized, but I think it should stay as long as those packages are still in fedora, since I don't think that upstream will use *tf fonts, still these are very useful packages, especially for old-timers. For tex I believe that it will be too complicated to use the system fonts. grace don't use embedded fonts anymore. I don't know for other packages, but indeed trying to use system fonts instead of duplicating them is a worth goal. It always seemed to me that it was a must fix even if it was not ain the guidelines, though. -- Pat