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Escaping "upgrade hell"
by Bob Shaffer 05 May '04

05 May '04

I've recently been investigating certain (I won't mention any names) distributions which seem to have an endless life-cycle. With these distributions, it seems that you can keep all of the software on your system at the most current versions and avoid the process of upgrading your entire O/S when new releases become available. This seems like the only logical way of handling things to me. Is it possible to do this with Red Hat/Fedora or, if not, will this be something that will be possible in the future and when? ____________________________________________________________________________ Bob Shaffer II - Owner/Developer/System Operator - BobShaffersComputer.com http://bobshafferscomputer.com/ telnet://bobshafferscomputer.com

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bynari email server
by redhat 05 May '04

05 May '04

Just curious, anyone out there familiar with a product called "Insight" from a company named Bynari? Any opinions on either? thanks, DF

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Epiphany in FC2
by Paul Vandenberg 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi, It looks like FC2 will have a development snapshot of Epiphany (1.1.12). Any reason why Fedora is using this version of Epiphany when the stable version 1.2.x was released a while ago, i.e. before GNOME 2.6 was released? I know Red Hat was thinking about making Epiphany the default browser in the future, but it seems that the Fedora project isn't that big on it. Anyone in the know, who can clarify things for me? Thanks.....Paul -- Fight piracy, use Open Source!

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Redhat Support Sucks!!!!
by Scott Burch 05 May '04

05 May '04

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Just a quick note to let people on this list know. Stay with Fedora! Don't install RedHat! I had a customer that just needed to feel good by purchasing telephone support, so I installed RedHat. We had an issue with a driver, I called RedHat and almost a month later have not heard back from them (even though we purchased the 4 hour response contract). Tell your customers that buying RedHat is not worth the cost. The support is better on this forum and it's free! Keep up the good work guys. Scott

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KDE 3.2.2
by Peter Cannon 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi All I know this probably has been covered before but is there an easy painless way to upgrade to the latest stable version of KDE? I am currently running 3.1.4-4 Red Hat yum has not upgraded this, perhaps because of the title not sure really, I have looked at KDE's site and could download the latest version but I don't seem to be able to find instructions for upgrading my system. I have a basic knowledge RPM and have done configure make make install but just let it run its course I wouldn't know what to do if it went wrong. Will I need to un-install the Red Hat version and install 3.2 or is there a way to upgrade? Regards Peter Cannon peter(a)cannon-linux.freeserve.co.uk "And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer."

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RE: RedHat Support Sucks!!!!
by Nix, Robert P. 05 May '04

05 May '04

That was my first thought as well, but I talked directly to him, and he was following up with RedHat, and not getting the response or attention his problem needed. In this case, the wheel squeaked, but was allowed to fall off anyway. We also talked about providing a bit more detail beyond his conclusions, which he did in a later message. Since that message, he has received several suggestions here, and some new attention from RedHat. I have to agree though that his initial attempt to find relief through RedHat would have left a bad taste in my mouth as well. My hope is that he is now on a path that will lead to a solution. ---- Robert P. Nix internet: nix.robert(a)mayo.edu Mayo Clinic phone: 507-284-0844 RO-CE-8-857 page: 507-270-1182 200 First St. SW Rochester, MN 55905 ---- "Codito, Ergo Sum" "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [SMTP:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jay Daniels > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 7:53 AM > To: For users of Fedora Core releases > Subject: Re: Redhat Support Sucks!!!! > > Why do people use email and forget to follow up with the phone if > there is a problem. Perhaps the email didn't get through or he used > the wrong address. > > I wonder, did he get an automated response from the email saying it > was delivered? > > > jay >

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Cooperative Bug Isolation project on Fedora Core 1
by Ben Liblit 05 May '04

05 May '04

The Cooperative Bug Isolation Project is a joint effort by UC Berkeley and Stanford to bring debugging into the Internet age. Instrumented applications send feedback to our analysis center, where we use statistical debugging techniques to learn what goes wrong when the software crashes. The project started on Red Hat Linux 9, but we recently moved to Fedora Core 1. We are pleased to offer FC1 RPMS for the following instrumented applications: - Evolution 1.4.5 - Gaim 0.77 - The GIMP 2.0.1 - Nautilus 2.4.0 - Rhythmbox 0.8.3 (includes iPod support!) What we need most of all are more runs from real users like you! Even if you've never written a line of code in your life, you can help make things better for everyone simply by using our special bug-hunting packages. Read more, download some packages, and join in! project info: <http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~liblit/sampler/> downloads: <http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~liblit/sampler/downloads/> bug kills so far: <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130788> <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137460> <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137834>

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KDE dies
by Edwin Humphries 05 May '04

05 May '04

My new fedora installation (fully updated) seems to be subject to KDE dying - nothing I can do seems to resurrect it, and whilst I know there is a way to open a new tty shell f4rom within an X application, I can't seem to find it. What's worse, when it happens, it seems to kill the USB system: when loading into Windows, it can't find the USB mouse attached, and seems to require making a change to the USB settings in the BIOS. Weird! Edwin Humphries, Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd edwin(a)ironstone.com.au www.ironstone.com.au Phone: 02 4233 2285 Fax: 02 4233 2299 Mobile: 0419 233 051

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Re: issues when updating packages
by Jon Shorie 05 May '04

05 May '04

On Tuesday 04 May 2004 12:00, fedora-list-request(a)redhat.com wrote: > Jon Shorie said: > > When I do a yum upgrade or a yum update, I get the following message: > > .Package gtkhtml3-devel needs gtkhtml3 = 3.0.9-5, this is not available. > > could you please let us know what mirror for yum you're using? I got around the problem by using the following exclude line in my yum.conf exclude=gtkhtm* fortun* kdetoys evolutio* gnome-pilo* libsou* It appears that evolution, gnome-pilot, and libsoup need the update to gtkhtml3. I am not sure what you mean by what mirror for yum you're using. I can provide my yum.conf file if you would like, but there are quite a few repositories in there and I am not sure which one has the gtkhtml3 update that may be causing the issue.

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Old Farts and Young Farts
by glm 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi All, As I understand it the only real difference would be the Aroma; and, therefore lets get it together as we all have the best opportunity to acheive undeniable success with the Fedora Project. Can I suggest that we concentrate our efforts to this end and face the fact that we are stuck with RPMs and that with the YUM to update, upgrade, install, info, remove, list, clean, provides, check-update, group install, groupupdate, and group list we are well endowed to acheive this. Please take a look at the YUM HOW- TO and try root@FC1xxxx # yum update and then root@FC1xxxx # yum install. You can also use YUM to keep your other RH distros Up2date quickly and simply. Linux 4 Me at age 69. Regards, glm.

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