Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]
by Wolfgang Pfeiffer
TL;DR:
Emails I'm sending to this list take many hours until they reach this
list. Main problem 'tho is that shortly after sending them I'm getting
an error message from postmaster(a)outlook.com telling me about
unspecified errors regarding the mail transport. The message for this
is attached with this email.
Details:
I actually wanted to send this email to an admin responsible for this
list, but there's no one to find. And I encourage everyone not
familiar with a mess like below to simply ignore this message:
I hope 'tho that someone from the Fedora list admins has a look at it.
The problem seems to be on the side of the Fedora mail distribution
servers, that seem to be connected in one way or another with
outlook.com.
The error message below, that was sent to me after sending an email to
this list (via relay=mail.gmx.net. [212.227.17.190] - the message
itself can be seen at the very end of the forwarded message below) is
a mess, so it's not clear at all who is resposible for the fact that
my emails to this list are
1: first delivered with no problems that I'd know of to the Fedora
list's servers (see the default Fedora list footers attached to my
email that I sent, at the very end of this message, which seem to
indicate just that) and after that successfull delivery to the
fedora servers are
2: managed by some outlook.com servers (please see messages below),
that complain that
"(protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning
lists.fedoraproject.org discourages use of 205.220.165.146 as
permitted sender)"
3: Additionally some y.antoniowatson(a)gmail.com is involved (see below).
Plus I checked my MTA (sendmail) logs: I have not sent this mail at
the very end to some y.antoniowatson(a)gmail.com, whoever this is ...
The email below, at the very end of this forwarded mail, obviously,
after successfully being sent to the fedora list servers, was handled
by outlook.com and lists.fedoraproject.org - and in the end delivered
to this list. After many hours.
So two questions to Fedora list admins (or anyone else who understands
the message attached)
1: Is my email address roto(a)gmx.net seen as a spammer address by the
Fedora list software?
2: Does anyone understand what happened according to the message
attached below from postmaster(a)outlook.com
Thanks in anticipation
Wolfgang
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 19:46:03 +0200
From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer <roto(a)gmx.net>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 19:46:03 +0200
From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer <roto(a)gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 08:44:20PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> I've been observing, from the sidelines, the devolution of mailing
> lists, Usenet, and IRC into web-based discussion forums of various
> flavors; getting the bar lowered to the level of Twooter, Spacebook,
> and TokTik, and more of the same. It takes more mental effort and
> discipline to participate meaningfully in the former, but much less in
> the latter. It's a much lower barrier of entry; hence this latest
> episode with Gnome.
>
Nailed it: Twooter, Spacebook, TokTik.
Devolution - whatever you call it - in the West seems to be a fact in
many fields. Whereas intellectually and when it comes to patents
Asians are getting a lot better over the last years. 2021 more than
50% of patent filings [*] came from Asia (China 25.1%, Japan 18.1%,
Republic of Korea 7.5%), USA 21.5% and Germany 6.2% - this is a total
reverse from the numbers of 1994: US were No.1, Germany #2, Japan #4,
Korea #18, China #21.
But yes: Let's all be happy with a few butttons to press.
"Press Green" > "Say yes" > "Now Go away"
Wolfgang
[*] https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pctndocs/en/2022/pct_news_2022_02.pdf
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1 year, 5 months
- 10
- 26
Lost highlight
by Patrick Dupre
Hello,
In a terminal (gnome-terminal), I used to use the mouse right button,
to copy paste highlighted text.
Sometimes I lost this option: the highlight odes not work.
It seems to be due to xmgrace.
Do you know how to recover this way of going without closing all
the xmgrace terminals?
Thank.
===========================================================================
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Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne
9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE
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1 year, 5 months
- 3
- 4
Nouveau Blacklisting not in /etc/default/grub
by Stephen Morris
Hi,
Having secureboot in the bios set to "Windows Mode" I have manually
signed the nvidia drivers after uninstalling akmod-nvidia and
kmod-nvidia and all the associated packages.
I then:
generated a signing key using kmodgenca
ran mokutil to import the generated key
rebooted
And at the MOK Manager interface I enrolled the key and
rebooted again
Then once in KDE I reinstalled akmod-nvidia and kmod-nvidia
I then ran lsmod | grep -i nvidia
Does the following display from lsmod indicate that the
nvidia module has not installed properly? I don't have the drm module
and the blacklisting of nouveau and the nvidia modeset parameter have
not been added to the kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub, or is it
that I did not force a rebuild of the kernel module and I did not force
an update of the boot image?
lsmod | grep -i nvidia
nvidia_drm 73728 32
nvidia_modeset 1187840 65 nvidia_drm
nvidia_uvm 1318912 0
nvidia 55242752 2950 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
regards,
Steve
1 year, 5 months
- 7
- 16
grub2 Question
by Robert McBroom
Running Fedora 35 and trying to fix installed boot files on a third drive.
~]# grub2-install /dev/sdc
grub2-install: error: this utility cannot be used for EFI platforms
because it does not support UEFI Secure Boot.
Secure Boot is turned off in the bios. The boot is from UEFI.
1 year, 5 months
- 5
- 7
New kernel install had issues. (6.0.5-200.fc36.x86_64)
by Doug H.
I do dnf upgrade any morning where something shows up as new. Today was
the big kernel jump to 6.x kernel. Was not worried I guess since I just
ran the update like normal and rebooted to it.
Ended up at:
error: ../../grub-core/kern/dl.c:429:symbol `grub_debug_is_enabled' not
found.
Entering rescue mode...
gruub rescue> _
Booted to the F36 install media and did the rescue option. It found my
system and setup my chroot. I simply ran:
chroot /mnt/sysroot
grub2-install /dev/sda
(no errors)
exit
And rebooted to that. All seems great.
Note that this is a very "old" system, having been dnf upgraded from
F19 all the way to today. I notice that the grub menu looks a bit
different, so it could be an issue of having an old grub on the disk
that needed an update.
Also note that I am pretty sure I have not rebooted since doing a disk
clone from my laptop (not this system) where I mounted old and new
laptop on this system and did a variety of dd, rsync, grub2-install,
reset UUIDs, etc. If I accidentally touch my sda instead of the sdd and
sde that I was working on then I might have created a bomb that went
off at reboot. I don't *think* that happened but not 100% sure.
Everything seems to be working, so I don't need any help, but wanted to
report this just in case.
--
Doug H.
1 year, 5 months
- 11
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