Re: building a new kernel, and firmware

last question about "building kernel" wiki page, i promise. here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel#Build_the_New_Kernel one reads: "To build with firmware included, do: rpmbuild -bb --with baseonly --with firmware --without debuginfo \ --target=`uname -m` kernel.spec " i've examined the kernel.spec file and i see nothing about firmware there. further down that page, one reads: "su -c "rpm -ivh $HOME/rpmbuild/RPMS/<arch>/kernel-<version>.<arch>.rpm \ $HOME/rpmbuild/RPMS/<arch>/kernel-firmware-<version>.<arch>.rpm \ $HOME/rpmbuild/RPMS/<arch>/kernel-headers-<version>.<arch>.rpm \ $HOME/rpmbuild/RPMS/<arch>/kernel-devel-<version>.<arch>.rpm" but i just did a build "--with firmware" and i see no generated "kernel-firmware" rpm. did that *used* to exist? can someone clarify this? just FYI, i'm writing a wiki page that i want to use in an upcoming fedora admin course, and i want to make sure that the recipe i give is absolutely accurate; hence, my obsession with technical pedantry. rday