1:13 a.m.
Hi,
Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail
in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the
sending process times out.
I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
Any ideas?
/Martin S
1:53 a.m.
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but
not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out.
I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely
*should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
Trying 74.125.203.16...
Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
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1:58 a.m.
Quoting Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com>:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve
> mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that
> the sending process times out.
> I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
> that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
>
> Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
> Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
Trying 74.125.203.16...
Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
/Martin S
2:16 a.m.
On 08/23/15 14:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com>:
> On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
>> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in
Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out.
>> I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that
absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
>>
>> Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
>> Any ideas?
>
> For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
>
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
> Trying 74.125.203.16...
> Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
Well, that pretty much rules out a DNS or network issue and points to something in
Evolution. But, since I don't use that I don't have a suggestion other than to
say "double check your settings".
FWIW, I have a test system and set up Evolution to use my gmail account and it works fine
for me.
When you set up your gmail account in evolution did you allow it to automatically set up
the settings?
The server needs to be "smtp.googlemail.com" using port 465 and you need to
check the box for "server requires authentication". Also need to have
encryption set to "SSL on a dedicated port" and use an Authentication type of
Login.
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2:22 a.m.
On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com>:
> On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
>> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve
>> mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that
>> the sending process times out.
>> I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
>> that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
>>
>> Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
>> Any ideas?
>
> For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
>
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
> Trying 74.125.203.16...
> Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
.
that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
your header shows you using an email client of;
Horde Application Framework 5
may we presume your email client is;
Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email
protocol to you server.
you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still
do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho
port.
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...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
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g
.
2:30 a.m.
On Aug 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>
> Quoting Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com>:
>> On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>>> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
>>> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve
>>> mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that
>>> the sending process times out.
>>> I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
>>> that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
>>>
>>> Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected.
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
>>
>> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
>> Trying 74.125.203.16...
>> Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>
.
that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
> Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
your header shows you using an email client of;
Horde Application Framework 5
may we presume your email client is;
Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email
protocol to you server.
you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still
do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho
port.
Actually port SHOULD be 587 (submission) server is smtp.gmail.com
<http://smtp.gmail.com/> and you MAY need to get an app specific password if you
have that setup under your gmail account. If the server does not recognize the machine
that mail is being sent from it will not accept it. If you log into gmail via the web
interface, you can see all the machines that have attempted access to your gmail account.
Using Wireshark to trace the communication from Evolution to gmail may help solve the
problem, or you could issue the commands yourself to see what gmail is responding to,
although once you get past the STARTTLS you may have a hard time understanding the
encryptions ;P
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...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
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g
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2:49 a.m.
On 08/23/15 02:30, Shaheen Bakhtiar wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>> Quoting Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com>:
>>> On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>>>> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
>>>> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve
>>>> mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that
>>>> the sending process times out.
>>>> I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
>>>> that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
>>>>
>>>> Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as
expected.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get
this....
>>>
>>> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465
>>> Trying 74.125.203.16...
>>> Connected to smtp.googlemail.com.
>>> Escape character is '^]'.
>>
> .
> that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
>
>> Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
>
> your header shows you using an email client of;
>
> Horde Application Framework 5
>
> may we presume your email client is;
>
> Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
>
> is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email
> protocol to you server.
>
> you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
>
> have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still
> do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho
> port.
>
>
Actually port SHOULD be 587 (submission) server is smtp.gmail.com
<http://smtp.gmail.com/> and you MAY need to get an app specific
password if you have that setup under your gmail account. If the server
does not recognize the machine that mail is being sent from it will not
accept it. If you log into gmail via the web interface, you can see all
the machines that have attempted access to your gmail account.
Using Wireshark to trace the communication from Evolution to gmail may
help solve the problem, or you could issue the commands yourself to see
what gmail is responding to, although once you get past the STARTTLS you
may have a hard time understanding the encryptions ;P
.
Martin's original post, which i am not glad that i re-read, says nothing
about problem with gmail.
problem is that evolution receives but does not send. nothing is said
about who with, tho i presume it is with server he is posting via with
horde client.
using a system monitor that shows web traffic is quicker and easier than
using wireshark to read traffic data when viewing a wave from will answer
question of intercourse.
if Martin installs thunderbird and configures agents online, thunderbird
will/should configure agents correctly.
if thunderbird intercourses with email servers, then he proves that
evolution is configed wrong for email server to receive his sending of
email even tho server is downloading email to him, proving that evolution
has bad smpt config, a bug, or bad install of software.
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peace out.
If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes...
...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
-+-
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6
tc,hago.
g
.
2:44 a.m.
Update so far: Using Thunderbird I am able to connect properly and
send email on my GMail account. It finds and autoconfigures all
settings. On Evolution it doesn't.
I can recieve mail on both Thunderbird and Evolution.
Regarding my own server Thunderbird reports that the password/username
is incorrect while I know I've entered them correctly and this cannot
even connect. On Evoloution I can connect and recieve mail but not send.
/Martin S
3:11 a.m.
On 08/23/15 02:44, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Update so far: Using Thunderbird I am able to connect properly and
send email on my GMail account. It finds and autoconfigures all
settings. On Evolution it doesn't.
I can recieve mail on both Thunderbird and Evolution.
Regarding my own server Thunderbird reports that the password/username
is incorrect while I know I've entered them correctly and this cannot
even connect. On Evoloution I can connect and recieve mail but not send.
.
use thunderbird configs for smpt in evolution.
as for password problem, does thunderbird setup password work for gmail?
to remove all passwords so they will require reentry, close thunderbird,
open file browser, open directory ~/.thunderbird/*defaults, *rename* file
signons.sqlite to signons.sqlite.backup. [what ever]
reopen thunderbird, pull emails for all servers. you will be prompted for
passwords again. enter them for each server, enable [X] save password.
after download processing, close thunderbird and reopen to lock in new
password entries. run email download for all servers, auto sending of
passwords should work.
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peace out.
If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes...
...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
-+-
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6
tc,hago.
g
.
2:04 a.m.
On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
.
hello.
Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail
in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the
sending process times out.
.
are you sure that you have evolution enabled for online?
do you have a system monitor that monitors eth port to show traffic?
you could/can use wireshark to monitor traffic, but that is a lot of
overhead.
I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
.
traffic monitor will show evolution is getting out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as
expected.
Any ideas?
.
you still do not know if evolution has intercourse.
sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing
in relation to using evolution locally.
install thunderbird to see how it works.
--
peace out.
If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes...
...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
-+-
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6
tc,hago.
g
.
2:10 a.m.
Quoting g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net>:
On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
> Hi,
>
.
hello.
> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail
> in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the
> sending process times out.
Update: Testing telnet access I can connect, but sending "ehlo"
command does nothing.
sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing
in relation to using evolution locally.
Yeah I know, just wanted to point out that it's not the sending itself
that the problem.
install thunderbird to see how it works.
I'll give it a try ...
/Martin S
2:31 a.m.
On 08/23/15 02:10, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting g <geleem(a)bellsouth.net>:
> On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
> .
> hello.
>
>> Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
>> I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail
>> in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the
>> sending process times out.
Update: Testing telnet access I can connect, but sending "ehlo"
command does nothing.
> sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing
> in relation to using evolution locally.
Yeah I know, just wanted to point out that it's not the sending itself
that the problem.
> install thunderbird to see how it works.
>
I'll give it a try ...
.
ok. that will prove that you can intercourse email protocol with another
email client.
can you setup horde client to send/receive via gmail?
if you can, then there is nothing wrong with email protocol via gmail.
back again to system monitor to see if evolution is sending,
--
peace out.
If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes...
...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
-+-
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6
tc,hago.
g
.
2:12 a.m.
On 23.08.2015, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as
expected.
Any ideas?
First, I would test if you can reach the mailserver at all:
telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
If this succeeds, then nstall tcptraceroute (or something similar)
and run it against the mailserver/port you're trying to reach.
It will show you where your packets are being blocked and thus
help you to narrow down the underlying cause.
Example: tcptraceroute smtp.gmail.com -p 25
2:14 a.m.
On 08/23/15 15:12, Heinz Diehl wrote:
First, I would test if you can reach the mailserver at all:
telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
That isn't the proper set up for a gmail account. :-)
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7:43 a.m.
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 08:13 +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
Been googling this a bit without find a solution.
I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve
mail
in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the
sending process times out.
I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server
that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as
expected.
Any ideas?
/Martin S
If you take this to the Evolution list you might get better results.
See https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Be sure to mention your Evolution version (not just your Fedora
version).
poc
8:53 a.m.
Hi,
In the end it turned out that the SASL authentication setup had become
corrupted, so didn't authenticate users. That's what I discovered once
I got port 587 up instead of 25.
/Martin S
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