10:37 a.m.
Hi,
I've just tried to set up some keyboard shortcuts, using Gnome, and
found that some will not do anything, just like when I tried to do the
same back on FC4, and I'm darned if I can find anything helpful about
this.
Some of the functions available in the editor do nothing, yet the keys
assigned do work, e.g. The lock screen function doesn't work, no matter
what keys I use as the shortcut. Yet other functions do work, e.g. the
"Run a terminal" will open a terminal, even if I assign it a key without
a proper name, e.g. 0x7a showing in the configuration window.
Desktop
Launch help browser - does nothing
Log out - haven't tested
Sleep - haven't tested
Lock screen - does nothing
Home folder - does nothing
Search - does nothing
Email - does nothing
Launch web browser - does nothing
Show the panel run application dialog - works
Show the panel menu - works, but not always
Take a screenshot - works
Take a screenshot of a window - works
Run a terminal - works
Sound
Volume mute - does nothing
Volume down - does nothing
Volume up - does nothing
Play (or play/pause) does nothing
Pause - does nothing
Stop playback key - does nothing
Skip to previous track - does nothing
Skip to next track - does nothing
Eject - does nothing
I didn't bother going through all the rest. I'm mostly interested in
getting the volume, play, track skipping ones to work, and the screen
locking one would be handy. But how do you go about this?
In the past I have got XMMS to work with the audio buttons on an FC4
box, but I don't recall having to do anything more than see that keys
had certain X names applied (such as, out of the various play/pause
names that could be picked from, only specific ones worked).
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2:04 p.m.
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Hi Tim,
Sound
Volume mute - does nothing
Volume down - does nothing
Volume up - does nothing
Play (or play/pause) does nothing
Pause - does nothing
Stop playback key - does nothing
Skip to previous track - does nothing
Skip to next track - does nothing
Eject - does nothing
I have got the first three working on my D810 and all of them working on
my mom's Inspiron.
I am not sure about the other keys, but I am guessing that they work too.
What issues are you facing?
thanks,
Rogue
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12:41 p.m.
Tim:
> Sound
> Volume mute - does nothing
> Volume down - does nothing
> Volume up - does nothing
> and so on...
Rogue:
I have got the first three working on my D810 and all of them working
on
my mom's Inspiron.
I am not sure about the other keys, but I am guessing that they work too.
What issues are you facing?
It doesn't work... ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist)
But being serious, I bought a new keyboard from the evil empire that has
a few multimedia buttons on it (Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
v1.0, USB), so I thought I'd have a bash at making use of some of them.
Volume controls, at the least, would have been handy, as my speakers
have none.
If you (or anyone else) uses Gnome on FC7, and has these shortcut keys
working, can you have a look in the keyboard shortcuts preferences, and
tell me whether yours has different shortcut names for the keys
associated with the actions. I'll just list a few.
Action Shortcut
Volume mute XF86AudioMute
Volume down XF86AudioLowerVolume
Volume up XF86AudioLowerVolume
Play (or play/pause) XF86AudioPlay
Skip to previous track XF86Back
Skip to next track XF86Forward
In the past (FC 3 or 4) I had to play with some keyboard mapping files,
creating a custom map for my other keyboard, and set specific names for
some keys. There were a few similarly named keys, but applications only
paid attention to some of them.
Yes, I've logged in and out, rebooted a few times, swore at it, etc.
These keys are noticed being pressed by something, as I was able to
configure the shortcuts by pressing those keys, and those names appeared
in the configuration window.
--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.22.1-33.fc7 i686 i386
Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
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12:56 p.m.
Tim wrote:
Tim:
>> Sound
>> Volume mute - does nothing
>> Volume down - does nothing
>> Volume up - does nothing
>> and so on...
>>
Rogue:
> I have got the first three working on my D810 and all of them working on
> my mom's Inspiron.
>
> I am not sure about the other keys, but I am guessing that they work too.
>
> What issues are you facing?
>
It doesn't work... ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist)
But being serious, I bought a new keyboard from the evil empire that has
a few multimedia buttons on it (Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
v1.0, USB), so I thought I'd have a bash at making use of some of them.
Volume controls, at the least, would have been handy, as my speakers
have none.
If you (or anyone else) uses Gnome on FC7, and has these shortcut keys
working, can you have a look in the keyboard shortcuts preferences, and
tell me whether yours has different shortcut names for the keys
associated with the actions. I'll just list a few.
Action Shortcut
Volume mute XF86AudioMute
Volume down XF86AudioLowerVolume
Volume up XF86AudioLowerVolume
Play (or play/pause) XF86AudioPlay
Skip to previous track XF86Back
Skip to next track XF86Forward
In the past (FC 3 or 4) I had to play with some keyboard mapping files,
creating a custom map for my other keyboard, and set specific names for
some keys. There were a few similarly named keys, but applications only
paid attention to some of them.
Yes, I've logged in and out, rebooted a few times, swore at it, etc.
These keys are noticed being pressed by something, as I was able to
configure the shortcuts by pressing those keys, and those names appeared
in the configuration window.
Those are not close to what I have.
Did you use: System/Preferences/Personal/Keyboard Shortcuts?
If you do it that way, it will grab the actual scan code of the keyboard.
This procedure works for all buttons that produce a scan code.
On my Dell Laptop (work bought it for me!)
Volume Down = 0xae
Volume Up = 0xb0
...
etc
Good luck!
3:55 p.m.
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Phil Meyer wrote:
Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>
>>> Sound
>>> Volume mute - does nothing
>>> Volume down - does nothing
>>> Volume up - does nothing
>>> and so on...
>>>
>
>
> Rogue:
>
>> I have got the first three working on my D810 and all of them working on
>> my mom's Inspiron.
>>
>> I am not sure about the other keys, but I am guessing that they work
>> too.
>>
>> What issues are you facing?
>>
>
> It doesn't work... ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist)
I was kinda expecting that :-P
>
> If you (or anyone else) uses Gnome on FC7, and has these shortcut keys
> working, can you have a look in the keyboard shortcuts preferences, and
> tell me whether yours has different shortcut names for the keys
> associated with the actions. I'll just list a few.
>
> Action Shortcut
> Volume mute XF86AudioMute
> Volume down XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Volume up XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Play (or play/pause) XF86AudioPlay
> Skip to previous track XF86Back
> Skip to next track XF86Forward
>
Those are not close to what I have.
Did you use: System/Preferences/Personal/Keyboard Shortcuts?
If you do it that way, it will grab the actual scan code of the keyboard.
This procedure works for all buttons that produce a scan code.
On my Dell Laptop (work bought it for me!)
Volume Down = 0xae
Volume Up = 0xb0
Mine look similar. I guess, you might want to know the key code that is
being fired when you actually click on these multimedia keys.
Meaning, when you try to reset the above, do you still see XF86... when
you click on these keys? If you do, then I would suspect that GNOME is
not capturing them. Can't think of a nice way to debug the issue, but
will let you know once I have more information
thanks,
Rogue
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12:36 a.m.
Phil Meyer wrote:
Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>
>>> Sound
>>> Volume mute - does nothing
>>> Volume down - does nothing
>>> Volume up - does nothing
>>> and so on...
>>>
>
>
> Rogue:
>
>> I have got the first three working on my D810 and all of them
>> working on
>> my mom's Inspiron.
>>
>> I am not sure about the other keys, but I am guessing that they work
>> too.
>>
>> What issues are you facing?
>>
>
> It doesn't work... ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist)
>
> But being serious, I bought a new keyboard from the evil empire that has
> a few multimedia buttons on it (Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
> v1.0, USB), so I thought I'd have a bash at making use of some of them.
> Volume controls, at the least, would have been handy, as my speakers
> have none.
>
> If you (or anyone else) uses Gnome on FC7, and has these shortcut keys
> working, can you have a look in the keyboard shortcuts preferences, and
> tell me whether yours has different shortcut names for the keys
> associated with the actions. I'll just list a few.
>
> Action Shortcut
> Volume mute XF86AudioMute
> Volume down XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Volume up XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Play (or play/pause) XF86AudioPlay
> Skip to previous track XF86Back
> Skip to next track XF86Forward
>
> In the past (FC 3 or 4) I had to play with some keyboard mapping files,
> creating a custom map for my other keyboard, and set specific names for
> some keys. There were a few similarly named keys, but applications only
> paid attention to some of them.
>
> Yes, I've logged in and out, rebooted a few times, swore at it, etc.
> These keys are noticed being pressed by something, as I was able to
> configure the shortcuts by pressing those keys, and those names appeared
> in the configuration window.
>
>
Those are not close to what I have.
Did you use: System/Preferences/Personal/Keyboard Shortcuts?
If you do it that way, it will grab the actual scan code of the keyboard.
This procedure works for all buttons that produce a scan code.
On my Dell Laptop (work bought it for me!)
Volume Down = 0xae
Volume Up = 0xb0
...
etc
Good luck!
If you want to know the actual keycode and keyseym for any key press in
Xwindows, investigate the X utility calle "xev". It was available on my
F7 installation and I don't believe I installed anything more special
than some of the developers tools.
~~R
4:25 a.m.
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 22:36 -0700, Richard England wrote:
If you want to know the actual keycode and keyseym for any key press
in Xwindows, investigate the X utility calle "xev". It was available
on my F7 installation and I don't believe I installed anything more
special than some of the developers tools.
I definitely do get responses from those keys in the Gnome keyboard
shortcut preferences, and xev too. The keyboard does something. The
problem is in getting other things to pay attention to them.
I can use the same buttons for *some* other things, for instance I can
assign any of them to open a new terminal, and that works. But the
audio mixer doesn't, nor any media players - I've tried mplayer, xmms,
rhythmbox and vlc. I even tried to see if the back and forward buttons
had any effect on web browser navigation in Firefox and Opera, or file
system navigation in Nautilus.
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[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.22.1-33.fc7 i686 i386
Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
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4:18 a.m.
Tim:
> Action Shortcut
> Volume mute XF86AudioMute
> Volume down XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Volume up XF86AudioLowerVolume
> Play (or play/pause) XF86AudioPlay
> Skip to previous track XF86Back
> Skip to next track XF86Forward
Phil Meyer:
Those are not close to what I have.
The names would depend on a keyboard definition, a standard keyboard map
would just return the scan codes, as yours did. A map for other
keyboards might include some specific titles, the particular one
depending on the map.
Did you use: System/Preferences/Personal/Keyboard Shortcuts?
If you do it that way, it will grab the actual scan code of the keyboard.
That was what I did, and how I got them.
This procedure works for all buttons that produce a scan code.
On my Dell Laptop (work bought it for me!)
Volume Down = 0xae
Volume Up = 0xb0
...
etc
I get things like that, too, if I just had a bog standard keyboard
layout configured. But, either way, with named keys or raw codes, those
keys don't do anything (the volume doesn't change when you press volume
keys, etc.).
--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.22.1-33.fc7 i686 i386
Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.
9:38 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 01:07 +0930, Tim wrote:
Hi,
I've just tried to set up some keyboard shortcuts, using Gnome, and
found that some will not do anything, just like when I tried to do the
same back on FC4, and I'm darned if I can find anything helpful about
this.
Some of the functions available in the editor do nothing, yet the keys
assigned do work, e.g. The lock screen function doesn't work, no matter
what keys I use as the shortcut. Yet other functions do work, e.g. the
"Run a terminal" will open a terminal, even if I assign it a key without
a proper name, e.g. 0x7a showing in the configuration window.
Mine is mostly working, presario v3320tu:
Desktop
Launch help browser - does nothing
working, I think depends on preferred
applications at system menu
Log out - haven't tested
Sleep - haven't tested
Lock screen - does nothing
Home folder - does nothing
Search - does nothing
Email - does nothing
Working too, same as browser
Launch web browser - does nothing
Show the panel run application dialog - works
Show the panel menu - works, but not always
Take a screenshot - works
Take a screenshot of a window - works
Run a terminal - works
Sound
Volume mute - does nothing
Volume down - does nothing
Volume up - does nothing
Play (or play/pause) does nothing
Pause - does nothing
Stop playback key - does nothing
Skip to previous track - does nothing
Skip to next track - does nothing
All working and with special key from laptop. I
set up it with
looking /var/log/message what code is generated when special key pressed
and assign it to launcher
Eject - does nothing
I didn't bother going through all the rest. I'm mostly interested in
getting the volume, play, track skipping ones to work, and the screen
locking one would be handy. But how do you go about this?
In the past I have got XMMS to work with the audio buttons on an FC4
box, but I don't recall having to do anything more than see that keys
had certain X names applied (such as, out of the various play/pause
names that could be picked from, only specific ones worked).
All multimedia
shortcut working properly, but with application launcher
I feel take a longer time to launch, more quick with click icon at
panel ;-)
--
Hansen
http://hansen.alfansa.org
http://teknologipraktis.org
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12:12 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 01:07 +0930, Tim wrote:
I've just tried to set up some keyboard shortcuts, using Gnome,
and
found that some will not do anything, just like when I tried to do the
same back on FC4, and I'm darned if I can find anything helpful about
this.
I gave up on trying to find where the fault was, and took the brute
force method. There's gconf.xml files all over the place, and just I
couldn't tell what was wrong with them just by looking at them.
Seeing as the shortcuts work for another user, the problem's got to be
down to my own settings, somewhere. I logged out graphically, renamed
the .gconf directory through the CLI, leaving me with defaults, logged
back in graphically, and it works.
Now, faced with Evolution losing all my settings (damn thing should have
it's own .evolution folder, not spreading its parts it other places), I
had to put its settings files back in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/, log out
and back in again, and then go through configuring other things I'd
lost. Grr, this is reminding me of Windows...
I suppose I could try diffing between the renamed and newly made
settings, but there's a bit of a mess of a tree to go through. One
thing I do know, *I* didn't bugger it up, all of this was configured
through the GUI configurators that come with the Gnome desktop.
It looks like I won't be able to use special keyboard keys with XMMS, as
it doesn't seem to pay attention to Gnome controlling things. It wants
to listen to keys for itself (which would preclude other things from
using the same keys). At least it looks that way from playing with the
xmms-acme RPM.
I don't care for the other music players I've tried, such as rhythmbox,
which does pay attention to the player keys. It's a whacking great
lumbering elephant, whereas XMMS was small and simple. But at least I
can now mute the sound, or adjust the volume, easily. even the
screensaver lock hotkey works, now.
--
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