Mark Jordan: Tim: Mark Jordan: Ah, I don't know of any easy way of removing what you don't need. The best option is to not install everything, and only install what you want to use. However, even a "minimum" install for something like a headless server (one without monitor, X, etc.), still installs all sorts of doodahs for messing with graphic files. It doesn't seem sensible to me. If I was going to set up something a webserver that generated graphs, then let *that* ask to have extra graphics routines installed. It's this sort of shovel in all sorts of stuff, regardless of need, which makes it a pain for the first round of updates after a fresh install (around 1 gigs worth). I'd like an easy way of installing the applications I need, with their support files, and *NOTHING* else. Not having to go through and untick three text-mode mail clients, etc., set to be installed by default. You could run something like Yumex, which gives you a listing of what's available for updates/installs, and what's already installed, with descriptions. You could manually go through and remove a few things. -- Pet hate: People using the term "automagically" when they mean "automatically". There's nothing *magic* about automation. :-\ Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.